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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: nljlistbox2@gmail.com (N. Jackson), Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Cc: eric@ericabrahamsen.net, 28596@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#28596: 26.0.60; [Gnus] Checking mail is no longer reliable and C-g no longer quits
Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2017 19:56:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83bmjextpg.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87wp22xvn8.fsf@moondust.localdomain> (nljlistbox2@gmail.com)

> From: nljlistbox2@gmail.com (N. Jackson)
> Cc: eric@ericabrahamsen.net,  28596@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2017 12:14:51 -0500
> 
> Hello Eli,
> 
> At 19:40 +0200 on Saturday 2017-12-02, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> >
> > Any news on this? Is this problem still present in the Emacs
> > 26.0.90 pretest?
> 
> Yes, the problem is still present with the 26.0.90 pretest. I ran
> that for three weeks and the problem happened almost every day.
> 
> Then I went back to using Emacs 25 out of frustration.
> 
> No, sorry, no news. I wasn't able to get any traction on debugging
> it; that would be so much easier if the code were in C! (I am
> perennially unsuccessful when I try to get the Elisp debugger to
> function the way I think it ought to, probably because I don't
> understand the way it is supposed to work.)
> 
> However, I had forgotten (or never saw) your suggestions to
> 
>   "try setting url-asynchronous to nil when fetching news... [o]r
>   maybe even build Emacs with HAVE_GETADDRINFO_A undefined"
> 
> and I will try that with 26.0.90 these next days.
> 
> Additionally, I am almost convinced that the problem is that Gnus
> gets into an ambiguous state where part of it thinks it is
> "unplugged" and part of it thinks it's "plugged", and that it
> never even tries to retrieve the news in the cases where it seems
> to be "broken".
> 
> Furthermore, I now believe that the hang that I had been observing
> was just Bug 16026 / Bug 16906 and that I failed to recognise it
> because I was too confused by the strange behaviour resulting from
> this current bug.

Lars, can you help us here?  I'd hate to release Emacs 26.1 with this
annoying problem.  Can we do something to have a solution or at least
a reasonably convenient band-aid?

Thanks.





  reply	other threads:[~2017-12-04 17:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-25 15:01 bug#28596: 26.0.60; [Gnus] Checking mail is no longer reliable and C-g no longer quits N. Jackson
2017-09-25 17:03 ` N. Jackson
2017-09-25 17:14 ` Noam Postavsky
2017-09-26 14:13   ` N. Jackson
2017-09-29  9:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-29 15:20   ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-09-29 17:27     ` N. Jackson
2017-09-29 20:17       ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-12-02 17:40       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-04 17:14         ` N. Jackson
2017-12-04 17:56           ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2017-12-22 13:43             ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-27 21:00             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
     [not found]               ` <871sjfdaql.fsf_-_@moondust.localdomain>
2017-12-28 12:07                 ` bug#28596: 26.0.60; Gnus gets into an ambiguous plugged/unplugged state that prevents retrieval of news Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-12-28 16:27                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-28 16:29                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-12-28 17:54                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-28 20:15                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-12-29  0:14                         ` N. Jackson
2018-07-02 17:55                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-03  0:19                             ` N. Jackson
2018-07-04 16:50                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-04 18:03                                 ` N. Jackson
2018-07-04 18:13                                   ` N. Jackson
2018-07-04 18:30                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-04 18:38                                     ` N. Jackson
2018-07-04 18:41                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-12 15:33                                       ` N. Jackson
2018-07-12 15:45                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-09-27 15:25                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-07-19 15:44                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-04 18:30                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-11 17:58           ` bug#28596: " N. Jackson

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