From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#33005: 27.0.50; Data loss with Gnus registry Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 15:51:37 +0300 Message-ID: <83bm7zwco6.fsf@gnu.org> References: <871s8yvsrq.fsf@web.de> <87in29x33z.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87r2gxygox.fsf@web.de> <87efcxwzr2.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <874ldtlcks.fsf@web.de> <87ftxdl7w1.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <83woqowc1f.fsf@gnu.org> <8736tcz1p3.fsf@web.de> <83va67x04s.fsf@gnu.org> <87bm7zxw6i.fsf@web.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1539348609 4685 195.159.176.226 (12 Oct 2018 12:50:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 12:50:09 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eric@ericabrahamsen.net, 33005@debbugs.gnu.org To: Michael Heerdegen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 12 14:50:05 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gAwtJ-00016G-80 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 12 Oct 2018 14:50:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40414 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAwvP-0006Im-Ei for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 12 Oct 2018 08:52:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54051) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAwvF-0006H6-Df for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Oct 2018 08:52:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAwvB-00058Y-Tx for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Oct 2018 08:52:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:41748) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAwvB-00058B-Pk for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Oct 2018 08:52:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gAwvB-0008Bt-MA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Oct 2018 08:52:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 12:52:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 33005 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 33005-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B33005.153934871231470 (code B ref 33005); Fri, 12 Oct 2018 12:52:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 33005) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Oct 2018 12:51:52 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46006 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gAwv2-0008BW-HN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 12 Oct 2018 08:51:52 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:44337) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gAwv0-0008BH-9I for 33005@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 12 Oct 2018 08:51:50 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAwur-0004Hl-30 for 33005@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 12 Oct 2018 08:51:45 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:35024) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAwuq-0004H2-U9; Fri, 12 Oct 2018 08:51:40 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2007 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1gAwup-0001RP-ML; Fri, 12 Oct 2018 08:51:40 -0400 In-reply-to: <87bm7zxw6i.fsf@web.de> (message from Michael Heerdegen on Fri, 12 Oct 2018 13:04:53 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:151172 Archived-At: > From: Michael Heerdegen > Cc: eric@ericabrahamsen.net, 33005@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 13:04:53 +0200 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > > Why do you think people know what you expect? > > > > Because I said it many times here. The fact is, most people do ask. > > But CONTRIBUTE tells something different. CONTRIBUTE's main audience is people who have no write access to the Emacs repository, so what it says just tells them on what branch to base the patches. The decision to which branch to push is then made by someone who actually pushes the changes. I'm okay with adding the request to ask about committing to the release branch, but at the time I was under the impression that some people didn't agree with such a policy, so I'm not sure the project as a whole would like it carved in stone from here to eternity. > I have the feeling that some people ask because they are lost, not > because they know that it is expected that they ask. That's not the reality. People explicitly ask _me_ whether it's okay to push to the release branch; the exceptions are almost non-existent.