From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#36717: 25.3; greek.el: deprecated vowel+oxia combinations should be replaced with vowel+tonos counterparts Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2019 16:00:33 +0300 Message-ID: <83blxquqku.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87zhlbaf5d.fsf@kiddo.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <20190718173252.GA3093@robertalessi.net> <20190718184700.GA4886@robertalessi.net> <20190718203203.GG4886@robertalessi.net> <83tvbiv7dp.fsf@gnu.org> <20190719085824.GA3263@robertalessi.net> <20190719094226.GA5734@robertalessi.net> <83ef2muqv0.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="24784"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: rpluim@gmail.com, 36717@debbugs.gnu.org To: alessi@robertalessi.net Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 19 15:01:14 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hoSVe-0006Lg-2z for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 19 Jul 2019 15:01:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44982 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hoSVc-0001XJ-VF for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 19 Jul 2019 09:01:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57432) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hoSVZ-0001XD-DD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Jul 2019 09:01:10 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hoSVV-0007Fv-M4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Jul 2019 09:01:07 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:46537) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hoSVS-0007DA-0k for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Jul 2019 09:01:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hoSVR-0008HV-Tj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Jul 2019 09:01:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2019 13:01:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 36717 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 36717-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B36717.156354124631802 (code B ref 36717); Fri, 19 Jul 2019 13:01:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 36717) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jul 2019 13:00:46 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55358 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hoSVB-0008Gs-Vx for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Jul 2019 09:00:46 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:45034) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hoSVA-0008Gc-Ff for 36717@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Jul 2019 09:00:45 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:58132) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hoSV4-0006ws-S5; Fri, 19 Jul 2019 09:00:38 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2664 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1hoSV4-0001xs-AX; Fri, 19 Jul 2019 09:00:38 -0400 In-reply-to: <83ef2muqv0.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Fri, 19 Jul 2019 15:54:27 +0300) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:163402 Archived-At: Bottom line, after reading this thread and related material on the net, I must say I don't understand what might be wrong with our current Greek input methods. It sounds like we allow users to type both characters with tonos and with oxia, and leave it to them to decide which one(s) they need. I see nothing wrong with that, because only the user can know what they need. Can someone please point out what am I missing? Preferably with concrete examples of characters and input methods used to type them. TIA