From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#39564: Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2020 10:46:50 +0200 Message-ID: <83blpfywhx.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20200211144941.godmcifegapmqg6i@Ergus> <83pndxerkg.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="127512"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 39564@debbugs.gnu.org To: Matt Kramer Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 02 09:47:15 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1j8gjK-000X4p-Qh for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2020 09:47:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56836 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1j8gjJ-0006HP-DG for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2020 03:47:13 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40342) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1j8gjB-0006HB-8F for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2020 03:47:06 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1j8gj9-0004Jv-1Z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2020 03:47:05 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:59536) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1j8gj8-0004Jn-Ua for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2020 03:47:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j8gj8-0007ok-Rz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2020 03:47:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2020 08:47:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 39564 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 39564-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B39564.158313882230046 (code B ref 39564); Mon, 02 Mar 2020 08:47:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 39564) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Mar 2020 08:47:02 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37276 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j8gj7-0007oS-Po for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2020 03:47:02 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:53422) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j8gj6-0007oC-B3 for 39564@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2020 03:47:00 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:35236) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1j8gj1-0004Eg-4y; Mon, 02 Mar 2020 03:46:55 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3760 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1j8gj0-0000ph-L8; Mon, 02 Mar 2020 03:46:54 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Matt Kramer on Sun, 1 Mar 2020 23:20:23 -0800) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:176758 Archived-At: > From: Matt Kramer > Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2020 23:20:23 -0800 > Cc: 39564@debbugs.gnu.org > > Followup: The regression in Ivy appears to be fixed when > set-message-function is bound to nil at the top of the misbehaving > function. That is indeed the simplest solution, but it is not the best one. It would be better for Ivy to provide its own set-message-function which plays by the new Emacs 27 rules, i.e. presents the message text in a way that doesn't completely obscure the original prompt. > In general, it seems like, given the new defaults defined in > http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/commit/?id=485b423e8f0df2711a850be7f254665f64ab0bdb, > it will be necessary to make a similar change to any existing function > that, say, calls read-key under the assumption that the prompt will > take over the mini-window. (At least when the prompt contains multiple > lines). I guess that's the fundamental issue here. The new behavior > may be a nice improvement, but it's unclear how much code there is out > there that relies on the old behavior. Relying on the old behavior was always not a future-proof assumption, so I see no way around the problem except fixing the code which makes such assumptions, sorry.