From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#40774: Error messages shouldn't be hidden when the user is idle Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2020 21:26:19 +0300 Message-ID: <83blnje5ro.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83mu73eagw.fsf@gnu.org> <3HKWEOXkDWKA21dsCFgMgmFIMPR3VwPgNzfTjd7I5Igswu07sfhZaP-td1X4Py66xAD6kDLyLjVmujFkuabkY_S9ZZhgGZwi0IaAV6RS59U=@protonmail.com> <83ftcve6gl.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="3103"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 40774@debbugs.gnu.org To: ndame Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 22 20:27:22 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jRK5i-0000hk-Ge for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 20:27:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55794 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jRK5h-0005Bh-I8 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 14:27:21 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53712) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jRK5Q-00058p-7e for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 14:27:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jRK5O-0005hQ-O3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 14:27:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:41659) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jRK5O-0005gs-C7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 14:27:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jRK5O-0002Gd-6a for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 14:27:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2020 18:27:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 40774 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 40774-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B40774.15875800048690 (code B ref 40774); Wed, 22 Apr 2020 18:27:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 40774) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Apr 2020 18:26:44 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53205 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jRK56-0002G5-F2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 14:26:44 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:50396) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jRK54-0002Fq-IQ for 40774@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 14:26:43 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:34759) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jRK4y-0004Up-TI; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 14:26:36 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2282 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jRK4x-0006zn-Md; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 14:26:36 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from ndame on Wed, 22 Apr 2020 18:21:48 +0000) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:178823 Archived-At: > Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2020 18:21:48 +0000 > From: ndame > Cc: "40774@debbugs.gnu.org" <40774@debbugs.gnu.org> > > > > The same definition what run-with-idle-timer uses is suitable. > > > > Are you sure? That defines when Emacs is idle, which is not the > > same thing. > > Yes, I meant "user is idle" from Emacs' point of view. I should have > been more precise. I wrote: "the user is idle (e.g. uses an other app > or is away from the computer)". > > So this feature comes into play when the user is idle in Emacs, > e.g. uses an other app, so doesn't look at the Emacs window > and can miss error messages. What if the user is looking at another application, and Emacs runs a prolonged operation of sorts, for example, indexing some large directory?