From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#41087: 27.0.91; How to remove Emacs 27 changes to minibuffer? Date: Tue, 05 May 2020 17:23:07 +0300 Message-ID: <83bln2mpf8.fsf@gnu.org> References: <> <<83lfm7m871.fsf@gnu.org>> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="62367"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 41087@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue May 05 16:24:36 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jVyUu-000G6L-7i for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 05 May 2020 16:24:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41776 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jVyUt-0002Ix-8w for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 05 May 2020 10:24:35 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58886) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jVyUN-0001f6-Hj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 05 May 2020 10:24:04 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:53673) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jVyUM-0001Wd-9B for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 05 May 2020 10:24:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jVyUM-0008UZ-69 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 05 May 2020 10:24:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 05 May 2020 14:24:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 41087 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 41087-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B41087.158868861532608 (code B ref 41087); Tue, 05 May 2020 14:24:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 41087) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 May 2020 14:23:35 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36986 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jVyTv-0008Ts-CH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 May 2020 10:23:35 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:55764) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jVyTt-0008Tf-Q9 for 41087@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 May 2020 10:23:34 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:55193) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jVyTo-0001RD-H1; Tue, 05 May 2020 10:23:28 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4557 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jVyTn-0007DW-DH; Tue, 05 May 2020 10:23:28 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Drew Adams on Mon, 4 May 2020 21:35:05 -0700 (PDT)) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:179733 Archived-At: > Date: Mon, 4 May 2020 21:35:05 -0700 (PDT) > From: Drew Adams > Cc: 41087@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > Emacs 27 is unfortunately _totally_ unusable for me. Cannot do the > > > slightest thing. > > > > Please provide at least some examples of the difficulties. It's hard > > to say anything intelligent without that much. > > I can't at this point. I simply can't use it at all. > It will take a very long time, I expect, to figure > anything out about it. I spent quite a while in the > Lisp debugger today, and didn't scratch the surface. Well, hopefully you will be able to tell more at some point. Otherwise we cannot do anything with this bug report. > But yes, I don't want minibuffer-message replacing > messge whenever the minibuffer is active, etc. I > want the echo area as it was and minibuffer-message > and message as they were. These two sentences seem to contradict each other. The first says that you want the new feature in Emacs 27, the second says that you don't want it.