From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#34404: 26.1; Finalizer in hash table run early? Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2020 10:42:23 +0200 Message-ID: <83blfjp4wg.fsf@gnu.org> References: <6151161.jHdu2dTOOM@gabor> <87sg8wtitq.fsf@gnus.org> <366c6cbb-d9fe-d672-12f7-3f04987555ac@gmx.at> <87mtz3kzbi.fsf@gnus.org> <83ft4vp5si.fsf@gnu.org> <87tutbjj1w.fsf@gnus.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="10290"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 34404@debbugs.gnu.org, braungb88@gmail.com To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 27 09:45:30 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kiZNg-0002XL-MT for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2020 09:45:28 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59990 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kiZNf-0002KQ-Ox for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2020 03:45:27 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55266) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kiZLK-0001dZ-2j for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2020 03:43:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:60598) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kiZLJ-00060j-RK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2020 03:43:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kiZLJ-0004dT-PF for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2020 03:43:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2020 08:43:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 34404 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 34404-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B34404.160646657017791 (code B ref 34404); Fri, 27 Nov 2020 08:43:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 34404) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Nov 2020 08:42:50 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43911 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kiZL7-0004cs-RI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2020 03:42:50 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:36890) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kiZL5-0004cf-JS for 34404@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2020 03:42:48 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:33691) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kiZKz-0005sR-7U; Fri, 27 Nov 2020 03:42:41 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3875 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kiZKy-0000ee-7u; Fri, 27 Nov 2020 03:42:40 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87tutbjj1w.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Fri, 27 Nov 2020 09:33:15 +0100) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:194421 Archived-At: > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Cc: rudalics@gmx.at, 34404@debbugs.gnu.org, braungb88@gmail.com > Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2020 09:33:15 +0100 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > The question is how do you define "100%"? The Emacs GC is > > conservative in the sense that when there's a doubt whether an object > > _could_ be still referenced, we mark it so it doesn't get swept. > > When is Emacs in doubt? :-) Mainly when we find what looks like Lisp objects on the C stack. > If we could say something about this in the manual (or the > `garbage-collect' doc string), I think that'd be helpful -- people > do seem to think that calling `garbage-collect' is guaranteed to > collect all the garbage. Fine by me, please feel free to suggest such wording.