From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#21695: 25.0.50; Change most occurrences of `setq' in Emacs manual to `customize-set-variable'? Really? Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2021 13:21:03 +0300 Message-ID: <83bl4yf628.fsf@gnu.org> References: <97d3ff2c-9e72-4004-88a9-08130ac99a74@default> <838s0fpixr.fsf@gnu.org> <83k0jtr45c.fsf@gnu.org> <87v93avtoe.fsf@gnus.org> <87r1dyvtav.fsf@gnus.org> <87mtolx6de.fsf@gnus.org> <87ilz9x5c8.fsf@gnus.org> <87y284rb1z.fsf@gnus.org> <0d48a23084a8b0435f37@heytings.org> <83h7eqf9wx.fsf@gnu.org> <0d48a230848de1d1b255@heytings.org> <83ee9uf82a.fsf@gnu.org> <0d48a23084cf7a569554@heytings.org> <83czpef6hj.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="10470"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: larsi@gnus.org, hmelman@gmail.com, 21695@debbugs.gnu.org, rms@gnu.org To: gregory@heytings.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 12 12:22:10 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mPMcj-0002UJ-PZ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 12 Sep 2021 12:22:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59132 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mPMch-0000GR-OA for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 12 Sep 2021 06:22:07 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:51818) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mPMcc-0000GD-E6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Sep 2021 06:22:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:58831) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mPMcc-0004Yf-6a for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Sep 2021 06:22:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mPMcb-0008Gw-Rb for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Sep 2021 06:22:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2021 10:22:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 21695 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 21695-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B21695.163144208631754 (code B ref 21695); Sun, 12 Sep 2021 10:22:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 21695) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Sep 2021 10:21:26 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42144 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mPMc2-0008G6-Fj for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 12 Sep 2021 06:21:26 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:34680) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mPMc1-0008Fr-Pk for 21695@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 12 Sep 2021 06:21:26 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:55354) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mPMbw-0003wq-H6; Sun, 12 Sep 2021 06:21:20 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:4744 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mPMbo-0007vd-6Z; Sun, 12 Sep 2021 06:21:12 -0400 In-Reply-To: <83czpef6hj.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Sun, 12 Sep 2021 13:11:52 +0300) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:214129 Archived-At: > Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2021 13:11:52 +0300 > From: Eli Zaretskii > Cc: larsi@gnus.org, hmelman@gmail.com, 21695@debbugs.gnu.org, rms@gnu.org > > The difference is that while Emacs is being built, especially > bootstrapped, calls to Lisp code that isn't preloaded by autoload.el > could fail. So such calls need to be careful not to call a symbol if > the call could fail, or at least use internal_condition_case* > functions to protect themselves against failure. Basically, you should use safe_call and its ilk.