From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#51590: follow-mode is broken with header-line and tab-line Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2021 14:12:50 +0200 Message-ID: <83bl2xbhz1.fsf@gnu.org> References: <86bl31xfl9.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83h7ctgk93.fsf@gnu.org> <86pmrf3l9m.fsf_-_@mail.linkov.net> <835yt7g3my.fsf@gnu.org> <8335o9dazn.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="21022"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 51590@debbugs.gnu.org, juri@linkov.net To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 06 13:14:14 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mjKaL-0005Ih-N4 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 06 Nov 2021 13:14:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53566 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mjKaK-000364-9D for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 06 Nov 2021 08:14:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41434) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mjKaA-00035g-D3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Nov 2021 08:14:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:37108) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mjKaA-0002u4-4R for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Nov 2021 08:14:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mjKa9-0002eS-Sp for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Nov 2021 08:14:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2021 12:14:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 51590 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 51590-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B51590.163620079910132 (code B ref 51590); Sat, 06 Nov 2021 12:14:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 51590) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Nov 2021 12:13:19 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48654 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mjKZS-0002dL-48 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Nov 2021 08:13:19 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:44004) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mjKZO-0002d6-6o for 51590@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Nov 2021 08:13:17 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:42190) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mjKZH-0001iq-OY; Sat, 06 Nov 2021 08:13:07 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=nvY7hi1MclL0tR7YLhX0MnMMLkfpauZkEW75X4p6kq4=; b=g3MDUMxmhfWX bDGzpsS0DX97vle1c70x9LXqOl6Z0RI9JuueZ7LdFbtmUM6lgqhrcPMgIc2pwn/VOea5Ast3Ffx9L LWV9v5r/xHwahWrd2VU68Qjxcy2yZ9/ZN3Dv5AyFAYq6H1JPx9ShYBGGYmQwKlmX/zqDzIyBIK8Sd JU8kqr3pNZX80oT2OCw5FLgVhwhbCtuoiCSVX+qyoh9xZ21Y0LKOTL0GCSxwwJ838r0HhFA2pRenX aURcE6wZHXU9gbImFUFbRqfRMtMa+NtfOal5EdIKBf/Fr9nC45YWxBAkMGtZvJ6hzaOHsKu0i+V0O 8u/I6qbP7KgZ3Bf+BFimvA==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=2078 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mjKZH-00052n-A4; Sat, 06 Nov 2021 08:13:07 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Alan Mackenzie on Sat, 6 Nov 2021 11:50:48 +0000) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:219101 Archived-At: > Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2021 11:50:48 +0000 > Cc: juri@linkov.net, 51590@debbugs.gnu.org > From: Alan Mackenzie > > > I've now made changes there to make clear that the header-line and the > > tab-line _are_ included in the text area. > > I'm just confused at the moment, after having spent several hours trying > to sort things out in my head. > > I think "window body" and "window text area" mean the same thing, but > I'm not sure. They aren't. "Text area" includes the header-line and the tab-line, the body doesn't. > The picture in elisp page "Basic Windows" seems to show "window body > height" as NOT including the header line or tab line. That picture > seems to show the header line as being ABOVE the text area, not part of > it. The updated picture doesn't have "text area" written on it at all. > The current implementation of posn-at-x-y includes the header line in > its Y coordinate, BUT NOT THE TAB LINE. I think this is a bug. Yes. Please fix it. > > > And I think we (probably me ;-) should go through the elisp manual and > > > doc strings replacing vague phrases like "the text area of the window" > > > with explicit descriptions involving "the header line", etc. > > > That'd be going overboard. We could place a cross-reference in some > > of those places to the "Frame Layout" node, though. Suggestions for > > such places are welcome. > > OK. But I think there's confusion in the manual and doc strings, and > even the code, and that it's not just me. _After_ my today's changes? If so, please show where is the confusing text.