From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#55439: [PATCH] Add support for the Modi script Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 15:45:24 +0300 Message-ID: <83bkvvf1qz.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83y1z1iue4.fsf@gnu.org> <871qwsh4kq.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="18042"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 55439@debbugs.gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, visuweshm@gmail.com To: =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B0_?= =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=BF=E0=A4=82=E0=A4=B9?= Sameer Singh Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed May 18 14:46:58 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nrJ4o-0004Pu-Bl for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 18 May 2022 14:46:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41350 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nrJ4n-0006zY-6a for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 18 May 2022 08:46:53 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54722) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nrJ3y-0006xX-ET for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 18 May 2022 08:46:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:37193) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nrJ3y-0002hd-6O for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 18 May 2022 08:46:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nrJ3y-0005y5-2I for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 18 May 2022 08:46:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 12:46:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 55439 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 55439-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B55439.165287795122267 (code B ref 55439); Wed, 18 May 2022 12:46:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 55439) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 May 2022 12:45:51 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59323 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nrJ3m-0005mi-RZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 18 May 2022 08:45:51 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:33120) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nrJ3j-0005dh-Io for 55439@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 18 May 2022 08:45:49 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:56722) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nrJ3e-0002eC-1t; Wed, 18 May 2022 08:45:42 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=JBdPm9xP1ojhgY4MMlt9cY9TizcmCOq2hyeGe+HQbOA=; b=RgGtdIosVdIAUKFZ134/ dg6fR+YRUSlxnmOYekbEApeTWnfZqFMZzNTzt8Gcg2JlFf0St+cYwIzrWHL7LAd7qKKT9ztwc4kyC G282lU8cNbwzI8qL+13FfcWsqv5EWQRswfUHelzD7fGjiIJQu43Sa066BPRifdG/4uIaytSuCbABJ aimV+4YtdFChaqg/MsCQPqpSlINmwJ5gUPJdW/bC9RomDLwt9yyfa6vF0h6btEgDgicWUoPUYYRce JxVO0psRuDDcXuK3LT6uaj4dEuemaagt66IriHAU+7n44+ZT9/4/tSHZeGJzTtBb+A90F8xoa3T88 zT2m3BRoTG+RHQ==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=3906 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nrJ3S-0008VM-Lb; Wed, 18 May 2022 08:45:30 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B0_?= =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=BF=E0=A4=82=E0=A4=B9?= Sameer Singh on Wed, 18 May 2022 05:44:30 +0530) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:232553 Archived-At: > From: समीर सिंह Sameer Singh > Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 05:44:30 +0530 > Cc: Visuwesh , 55439@debbugs.gnu.org, > Eli Zaretskii > > I agree that this change is correct, but let's not ever delete the old > name "Hindi". Keeping an old alias does no harm. > > Hindi is not an alias, it is an incorrect term. > No one is using Hindi to refer to the Devanagari script, therefore I think it should not be readded. AFAIU, Hindi is one language that uses the Devanagari script. Is this correct? If that is correct, how about having two lines in HELLO: one that says "Hindi" and shows a Hindi greeting, and another that says "Devanagari" and shows a greeting in some other language that uses Devanagari? > Until then, let's make sure that both the old name and the new name > are accepted, in any places in which people can input the name of a > script. > > I feel like 11 years is enough time. In Emacs, 11 years is nowhere near "long enough". And anyway, the script will not be renamed, since we follow Unicode in script names. The patch didn't rename the script, and rightfully so. > Only two functions are changed where it affects the user, both are input methods: odia-itrans and > odia-inscript. As I wrote in the review of the patch, we cannot suddenly remove input methods that we had for 20 years. We must find a less drastic solution.