From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#55527: 28.1; Clearer abbrev docstrings Date: Sat, 21 May 2022 21:06:01 +0300 Message-ID: <83bkvq92wm.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83bkvtcq38.fsf@gnu.org> <838rqxcnkk.fsf@gnu.org> <837d6gdaab.fsf@gnu.org> <83leuw9ovm.fsf@gnu.org> <27EF500E-25FC-4079-AA2F-66A8B3CA95B5@gmail.com> <838rqv9wnp.fsf@gnu.org> <6DB8A7EA-325F-4E1D-8382-431581A07B95@gmail.com> <83fsl37z9k.fsf@gnu.org> <96FE2CC0-8A4C-4099-A3D5-5FDD351C739F@gmail.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="2435"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 55527@debbugs.gnu.org To: Howard Melman Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat May 21 20:07:13 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nsTVR-0000Wd-2c for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 21 May 2022 20:07:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33692 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nsTVP-0002za-NE for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 21 May 2022 14:07:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:38808) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nsTVG-0002zC-TR for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 21 May 2022 14:07:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:49017) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nsTVG-0002lp-L6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 21 May 2022 14:07:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nsTVG-00012D-GL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 21 May 2022 14:07:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 21 May 2022 18:07:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 55527 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 55527-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B55527.16531563903935 (code B ref 55527); Sat, 21 May 2022 18:07:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 55527) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 May 2022 18:06:30 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42914 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nsTUk-00011O-1s for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 21 May 2022 14:06:30 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:45398) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nsTUf-00011A-Sv for 55527@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 21 May 2022 14:06:29 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:55142) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nsTUY-0002jN-Gr; Sat, 21 May 2022 14:06:18 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=9VkppGqhp/kYv41lZdaFVXQr0CIhAieBmrbXvzqCmDA=; b=ApW3C5Jmnb8A ur7BUglYlCFL9G43BWvRAK3BGNPVbTOqbvhhSxobbLyrwuABxr1I6gA7FZLFIqMgAdNLyAMwXTctP P1iF0ZJ2KLaJhxypcmxJVVTJWElqbgOuMeSKqNfL8S4t3GdpBhTYSvUpNFmLQ6YfU1PlXX/LVbCEz mP3tbuy8Pm5cnOoXynMmq8yqbcnj/ot6FcbGG/pw01lLZXNp08DFRJ1FF0J/BM6gMWY5/XPPTYPUO STy4EiXuzjrNXGTj90CLP8MB6HmKIRMejic/+E25x8x73IX/m9CS/U6AugWXgkXWxB1k+cvFfDWqg DoMwAyAsKYYydS2ZItCYzQ==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=4451 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nsTUY-0000sC-0D; Sat, 21 May 2022 14:06:18 -0400 In-Reply-To: <96FE2CC0-8A4C-4099-A3D5-5FDD351C739F@gmail.com> (message from Howard Melman on Sat, 21 May 2022 13:49:48 -0400) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:232843 Archived-At: > From: Howard Melman > Date: Sat, 21 May 2022 13:49:48 -0400 > Cc: 55527@debbugs.gnu.org > > The existing docstrings for these commands had "word(s)" in them > and I don't think that's what made them unclear. I also think it's a > common case to define an abbrev for a multi-word expansion. I disagree, and let's leave it at that. > Also, I see now that the inverse- versions of these command treat a > negative argument as reversing the direction to find the word to use > as the abbreviation but the (old and new) docstrings fails to mention > this. I'm not sure if that's intentional or not (IMO it's an odd use case). This is unrelated. The effect of negative argument was implied; I've now made it explicit. Our disagreement aside, are there any other issues left?