From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#58459: Getting a fresh emacs session with no customisation Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2022 22:13:27 +0300 Message-ID: <83bkqfa65k.fsf@gnu.org> References: <0geQIvut8pm1-9SAaI008CzSdp1E-IUa3kruCxKwrH66Gg92tJgKScNSDWJwuueXmV78tcULC_N_c9LG5MADKiD3_AjkXcNQTMQ6soTqIlc=@proton.me> <3gN0Jqr94UeUj3xJtDV3zGvZVbUyjtQFAloYxrdvwN_ZHa3tEUYyFv8h3VcYYSk_gxgMaaBW94kAkaAUCgbd9QKZMkkYJBty-7XOadbzHHQ=@proton.me> <87fsfsc9af.fsf@yahoo.com> <83o7ufafow.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="5490"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, psainty@orcon.net.nz, uzibalqa@proton.me, 58459@debbugs.gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com To: Christopher Dimech Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 13 21:20:03 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oj3kQ-0001ED-Sf for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 13 Oct 2022 21:20:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34694 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oj3kP-0000sF-GB for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 13 Oct 2022 15:20:01 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37986) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oj3ec-0003Lq-9c for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Oct 2022 15:14:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:35898) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oj3eb-0006O1-TO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Oct 2022 15:14:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oj3eb-0002ek-OJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Oct 2022 15:14:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2022 19:14:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 58459 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug Original-Received: via spool by 58459-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B58459.166568843310187 (code B ref 58459); Thu, 13 Oct 2022 19:14:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 58459) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Oct 2022 19:13:53 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34976 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oj3eT-0002eE-9m for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Oct 2022 15:13:53 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:38832) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oj3eP-0002dx-2l for 58459@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Oct 2022 15:13:52 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:55668) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oj3eG-0006Mr-Ld; Thu, 13 Oct 2022 15:13:43 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=kUmvnBNy8gQ5NCV478fVRsu8NX3cgonI1hWcYqgyAcY=; b=V7wTjzaVV2Gv uTHqDBUtEq2JQN/ex/wYCqjRluHAJUXYn2gjWYXJoW2FDGwUERgcjSiTW1ytMkQ26RAE7eDURjriW alMz5bM52OVo6irirzcFYFJS8zcvVv8Py7cp+exvtOkUGB5bvNzk2eC2Xn239XjsPH6QTb9jToXZ6 p81o3yYSkQSILSomS2enbhX6NCcGn/tUlhq/4HkQGXvZpVOJNH0nNbTiGNK1sVum3DH/PY2dSI0VW dunRUQ++/tV6T2/km2xN3EMRhInkfPY1lb9OuuduIvG1xB+0kC1vDXxPfbyRBjkmY+Xm8enUPRFas CLlKR5S8tHYe+XzactfhNQ==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=2932 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oj3eF-0001NS-4H; Thu, 13 Oct 2022 15:13:39 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Christopher Dimech on Thu, 13 Oct 2022 18:36:43 +0200) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:245340 Archived-At: > From: Christopher Dimech > Cc: uzibalqa , luangruo@yahoo.com, psainty@orcon.net.nz, > 58459@debbugs.gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com > Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2022 18:36:43 +0200 > > > And X resources are as much user settings as what the user sets on the > > init files. So Emacs cannot but obey them. It is user's > > responsibility to set up his/her settings according to his/her > > preferences. > > The user makes a good point. When a user want emacs to obey x-resources, > the user specify the x-resources in their init file. Rather than obey them > when a user did not specifically ask for that to happen. That's not how X applications work, and that's not how Emacs has worked since day one on X. So please stop arguing, this is not going to change.