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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: "Aaron Jensen" <aaronjensen@gmail.com>,
	"Gerd Möllmann" <gerd.moellmann@gmail.com>
Cc: 60220@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#60220: 29.0.60; macOS 13.1 crash shortly after starting Emacs
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2022 14:22:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83bknxaqvl.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHyO48wTi7AgGUDFrO10UuNLpXm6WAZiUQz7bXA1Wu3pSueoKQ@mail.gmail.com> (message from Aaron Jensen on Tue, 20 Dec 2022 22:47:46 -0500)

> From: Aaron Jensen <aaronjensen@gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2022 22:47:46 -0500
> Cc: 60220@debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> > > Process 19414 exited with status = 14 (0x0000000e) Terminated due to signal 14
> >
> > What is "signal 14" on macOS?
> 
> This is all I could find:
> 
>      14    SIGALRM      terminate process    real-time timer expired
> 
> I'm able to reproduce the above without native compilation as well.
> This particular thing only happens when in a lldb and doesn't affect
> me in practice.

The only place we use SIGALRM in Emacs is in interval timesr (see
atimer.c), which are used for stuff like hour-glass cursor and input
polling.

Once again, this might mean we are not cleaning up the process state
before calling execvp.  But that is just a speculation.

> > Anyway, look at the code: we restart by calling execvp.  You or
> > someone who knowns macOS internals should take a look at what that
> > means for shared libraries which were loaded by the program that calls
> > execvp -- what happens with those libraries in the execvp'ed process.
> > I'm guessing that they are not being unloaded and re-loaded by the new
> > process, or something to that effect.
> >
> > Or maybe the way we load the *.eln files causes this, triggered by
> > 'execvp'?
> 
> This is out of my depth.

Mine as well.  Gerd, any ideas or hints?

> I did a tiny bit of digging and didn't find anything.

Likewise.

> > Can you try running for a while Emacs built without native compilation
> > and restarting it?  That could tell us whether the *.eln files are the
> > problem.
> 
> I wasn't able to reproduce it w/o native compilation. I'm going to try
> running w/ native compilation for a while *without* doing any restarts
> and see if I can get it to crash. I've seen crashes take an hour+
> after a restart (though most happen w/in 30 seconds). I can't say
> definitively that all crashes have happened in a restarted process.

OK, thanks.





  reply	other threads:[~2022-12-21 12:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-20 15:11 bug#60220: 29.0.60; macOS 13.1 crash shortly after starting Emacs Aaron Jensen
2022-12-20 15:25 ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-20 15:41   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-20 15:59     ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-20 17:23       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-21  3:47         ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-21 12:22           ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2022-12-21 13:29             ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-12-22  5:09               ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-22  5:12                 ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-22  5:36                   ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-12-22  8:18                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-23  2:05                       ` Paul Eggert
2022-12-23  2:22                         ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-23  5:33                           ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-12-23  5:56                           ` Paul Eggert
2022-12-24  6:45                             ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-24  6:57                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-24  7:03                                 ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-24  8:25                                 ` Paul Eggert
2022-12-24 15:11                             ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-25  5:30                               ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-12-25 19:30                                 ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-25 19:59                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-27 11:12                                     ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-27 13:11                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-29 22:47                                         ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-29 23:46                                           ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-29 23:49                                             ` Paul Eggert
2022-12-29 23:59                                               ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-30  0:03                                                 ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-30  1:16                                                   ` Paul Eggert
2022-12-30  1:20                                                     ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-30  2:11                                                     ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-30  3:54                                                       ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-30  4:24                                                         ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-30  4:25                                                           ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-30  7:41                                                             ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-12-30  8:03                                                               ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-30  8:42                                                                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-12-30 13:37                                                                   ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-30 13:52                                                                     ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-30 14:24                                                                       ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-30 15:27                                                                       ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-12-30 15:50                                                                         ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-30  8:37                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-30 13:36                                                       ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-30 14:18                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-30 22:42                                                       ` Paul Eggert
2022-12-31  6:33                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-30  8:32                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-04 15:51                                                     ` Andrea Corallo
2023-01-04 16:58                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-10 15:28                                                         ` Andrea Corallo
2023-01-10 16:57                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-10 22:59                                                           ` Aaron Jensen
2023-01-12 11:01                                                             ` Andrea Corallo
2023-01-14 16:23                                                               ` Aaron Jensen
2022-12-30  0:08                                                 ` Paul Eggert
2022-12-30  8:29                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-22  8:05                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-20 15:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-20 15:36   ` Aaron Jensen

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