From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#62027: Subject: 29.0.60; Breaking change in forward-sentence/backward-sentence Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2023 18:52:36 +0200 Message-ID: <83bkl3423v.fsf@gnu.org> References: <874jqxkoey.fsf@runbox.com> <87y1o8c39u.fsf@ledu-giraud.fr> <834jqw7lrn.fsf@gnu.org> <87ttywbl59.fsf@ledu-giraud.fr> <83h6uw5ydn.fsf@gnu.org> <87a60obji1.fsf@ledu-giraud.fr> <83cz5k5viq.fsf@gnu.org> <87wn3s9y7z.fsf@ledu-giraud.fr> <83a60o5pdb.fsf@gnu.org> <87mt4nivo7.fsf@runbox.com> <87jzzrab9w.fsf@ledu-giraud.fr> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="14463"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: simenheg@runbox.com, 62027-done@debbugs.gnu.org, manuel@ledu-giraud.fr, mardani29@yahoo.es To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 08 17:53:18 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pZx2T-0003VT-Kv for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2023 17:53:17 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pZx2F-0002xQ-UW; Wed, 08 Mar 2023 11:53:03 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pZx2E-0002xH-VJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2023 11:53:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pZx2E-0002QF-NL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2023 11:53:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pZx2E-0001VB-Fd for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2023 11:53:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2023 16:53:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 62027 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 62027-done@debbugs.gnu.org id=D62027.16782943665743 (code D ref 62027); Wed, 08 Mar 2023 16:53:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 62027-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Mar 2023 16:52:46 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50077 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pZx1y-0001UZ-B4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2023 11:52:46 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:48972) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pZx1w-0001UI-06 for 62027-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2023 11:52:44 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pZx1q-0002Ks-38; Wed, 08 Mar 2023 11:52:38 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=sQimJtc26dTUwLi+blnGBrJ5O+mlyUriSpLPl4rA3/I=; b=Wlnb6q+JSeXS v2m+lRzj6F99Ho/PpoOpqjBa/cJ29I4O7UQgrdksIVM+1t1G6y6KKBPv10yY5YqGAoQ2yIFDz95sV zbWd1TfbaDhiXCDsATQWlaUEvbyG0muKb8yVMjvf4RfrpOyoWTiZzqJ6ShzE2YX8Ynh453WrPsuoo pbsecgkwLYL2YVaXQ28RIHDR9qI/Ye28Zl/25smGgdx9fsZvybvYXbZxCgOI4pcr15MTfIR0oIPYZ KzA7shQA0DSLYFKvzNM5BPamaKX945MAqcy1ucbLOvIqUYF3u0irq/TlmyWwrCtY9DwKVqbfpqbHl V9+JXGmimlJh97oXfRArMA==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pZx1p-0004bB-Im; Wed, 08 Mar 2023 11:52:37 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Drew Adams on Wed, 8 Mar 2023 15:52:51 +0000) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:257551 Archived-At: > From: Drew Adams > CC: Eli Zaretskii , > "62027-done@debbugs.gnu.org" > <62027-done@debbugs.gnu.org>, > "mardani29@yahoo.es" > Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2023 15:52:51 +0000 > > > > Should perhaps the return values of > > > `forward-sentence'/`backward-sentence' be documented > > > to prevent this from happening again? > > > > Why not: Hyrum's law might have won here. But OTOH in master, > > 'forward-sentence' is a now call to 'forward-sentence-function' that > > could be changed by the user. Maybe should we document > > 'forward-sentence-default-function'? > > Yes, but _both_ should mention the return value. > And not just "to prevent this from happening again." > Documenting this helps users use the functions. Not when the value is a simple consequence of the implementation, no. forward-sentence does its job by side effect, not by the value it returns.