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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, 64871@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#64871: 30.0.50; [FR] Add command and menu item to open user init file
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2023 11:54:33 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83bkfxn392.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ila57o10.fsf@localhost> (message from Ihor Radchenko on Thu, 27 Jul 2023 08:32:27 +0000)

> From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
> Cc: Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>, 64871@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2023 08:32:27 +0000
> 
> My instincts from other GUI apps tell me that common places where
> customization staff is located is Options->Preferences,
> Edit->Preferences, or Tools->Preferences.
> 
> Options->Customize sounds like something new users would be able to
> find.

"Preferences" would be a silly name in Emacs, because every
customization in Emacs is about "preferences".

> > To be fair, the tool bar still has some free space on it.  But I
> > actually wonder about something else: what other applications have a
> > tool-bar button to access the init file, or even just the
> > customization menu?
> 
> "Preferences" gear icon is something I have seen on toolbars.

That's a separate issue and a separate request, though.

> And for init file, it is not a common concept.

Exactly my point.  The easy-on-newbies interface for customization is
not to present them with (a largely empty) init file, far from that.

> Another idea could be adding a button that will open init file right
> into customize interface (near "Apply").

Why?

> Side note: I now tried to look into Emacs "preferences" via menu and it
> feels a bit awkward. Options->Customize Emacs-> has "Top-level
> customization group" and "Browse customization groups" do not sound very
> different and I would never guess (even knowing Emacs) that "browse"
> implies short overview of all options.

Did you read the help-echo strings they display?





  reply	other threads:[~2023-07-27  8:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-26 11:04 bug#64871: 30.0.50; [FR] Add command and menu item to open user init file Ihor Radchenko
2023-07-27  1:09 ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-07-27  5:36   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-27  5:44     ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-07-27  6:19       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-27 12:29         ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-07-27 12:48           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-27  8:32     ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-07-27  8:54       ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2023-07-27  9:08         ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-07-27  9:50           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-28  8:09             ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-07-28 12:03               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-28 12:24                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-07-28 12:43                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-28 12:47                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-07-28 14:15                   ` Drew Adams
2023-08-03  8:08                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-03  8:36                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-03  9:07                       ` Eli Zaretskii

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