From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#13149: 24.3.50; Emacs thinks file was changed outside Emacs, but it was not Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 09:56:32 +0200 Message-ID: <83a9s67wlr.fsf@gnu.org> References: <6CDE13E3BCAA4AFAAB8BCE105C6ABF12@us.oracle.com> <874njs19zb.fsf@yandex.ru> <50F3935A.2090003@yandex.ru> <50F41CE7.60306@gmail.com> <50F44E6B.8090007@cs.ucla.edu> <50F484CB.6010905@gmail.com> <50F4FB0B.5070003@cs.ucla.edu> <50F5192B.602@yandex.ru> <50F5928A.9010009@cs.ucla.edu> <50F5CC3D.5090802@yandex.ru> <50F5CE65.9030002@cs.ucla.edu> <50F5D3F5.6050604@yandex.ru> <50F5DA58.3020404@cs.ucla.edu> <50F5E1C1.2040301@yandex.ru> <50F5E9DB.1030309@gmail.com> <50F64149.6010704@cs.ucla.edu> <50F7D358.9030100@gmail.com> <50F86E12.3040707@cs.ucla.edu> <50F8D150.8030200@gmail.com> <50F8D731.5020001@cs.ucla.edu> <50F8D93B.1040901@yandex.ru> <50F8DCCB.1030602@cs.ucla.edu> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1358495844 5726 80.91.229.3 (18 Jan 2013 07:57:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 07:57:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 13149@debbugs.gnu.org, dgutov@yandex.ru To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 18 08:57:42 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Tw6pX-0003WV-23 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Fri, 18 Jan 2013 07:58:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 13149) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Jan 2013 07:57:44 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37802 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Tw6pX-0001cl-VW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 02:57:43 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:52436) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Tw6pS-0001ca-0B for 13149@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 02:57:37 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MGT00M009A7NL00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 13149@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 09:56:26 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MGT00MZUA20MP70@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 09:56:25 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <50F8DCCB.1030602@cs.ucla.edu> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:69968 Archived-At: > Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 21:25:31 -0800 > From: Paul Eggert > CC: 13149@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii > > On 01/17/2013 09:10 PM, Dmitry Gutov wrote: > > cifs: > > > > 1358485764.638001400 fstat > > 1358485764.638001400 lstat > > 1358485764.638001400 stat > > * > > 1358485764.638001400 fstat > > 1358485764.638001400 lstat > > 1358485764.638001400 stat > > That looks busted, since there's > a 10 ms sleep followed by a write at the two > points I marked "*" above, which means that > fstat, lstat, and stat are all wrong after the "*". Who said anything was actually written to the file? You'd need 'fsync' to be sure, don't you?