From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#15984: 24.3; Problem with combining characters in attachment filename Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 09:16:44 +0200 Message-ID: <83a9gn8yoz.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83iovc8eaq.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1385709491 5075 80.91.229.3 (29 Nov 2013 07:18:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 07:18:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 15984@debbugs.gnu.org To: nisse@lysator.liu.se (Niels =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=B6ller?=) Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 29 08:18:15 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VmIL9-00057H-K6 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 08:18:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45759 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VmIL9-0001fm-5y for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 02:18:15 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47835) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VmIL1-0001fU-PF for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 02:18:11 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VmIKw-0003dk-Jj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 02:18:07 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:35605) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VmIKw-0003dc-GX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 02:18:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VmIKv-0004Aw-SU for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 02:18:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 07:18:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15984 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 15984-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15984.138570942615939 (code B ref 15984); Fri, 29 Nov 2013 07:18:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 15984) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Nov 2013 07:17:06 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49624 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VmIK1-00048z-GU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 02:17:06 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:49168) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VmIJx-00048D-0q for 15984@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 02:17:02 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MX000H00K575B00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 15984@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 09:16:54 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MX000GO0K86WA70@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 09:16:54 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:81075 Archived-At: > From: nisse@lysator.liu.se (Niels Möller) > Cc: 15984@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2013 23:17:06 +0100 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > If you expected Emacs to perform normalization in this case, then I > > don't think we do this automatically (or at all). > > I think for display, normalizing is definitely the right thing to do > (the unicode spec, as I understand it, require that a "compliant" > implementation treats different ways to code "ä" equivalently). > But I understand if emacs currenty doesn't do that. Someone(TM) should write the code to do that. > (Digression: I think text-processor supporting unicode really ought to > represent "characters" as interned strings of unicode (or utf-8) code > points. That's what Emacs does since v23.1 (except that we extend the range of Unicode codepoints to represent some non-unified characters and binary raw bytes). > These characters can have relations such as "normalized to" This part requires incorporation of tables and supporting code, which needs to be written. > glyphs should usually be associated only with the normalized form. Here I disagree. There are definitely situations where this is not TRT, and they aren't "unusual". > I'll try to send you a private mail with the bulk of the message with > the body of the attachment replaced (the base64 text in the raw message; > if the problem really is with the attachment headers, that shouldn't > matter); if that's for some reason not usable, I'll send you the > complete message. Thanks. I'd also need instructions to display that message in Gnus after saving it to a file, starting with "emacs -Q", as I don't have Gnus set up and don't use it in my day-to-day work.