From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#20322: 25.0.50; indent-tabs-mode should default to nil Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2015 18:28:36 +0200 Message-ID: <83a8ovhn4b.fsf@gnu.org> References: <861tjn3069.fsf@yandex.ru> <552D20B6.8030005@yandex.ru> <83mw2abul3.fsf@gnu.org> <552D34BC.4090806@yandex.ru> <83h9sibt0q.fsf@gnu.org> <552D7796.2090109@yandex.ru> <567EA3EB.7030007@yandex.ru> <83mvsvhov8.fsf@gnu.org> <56800D72.9080300@yandex.ru> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1451233705 24836 80.91.229.3 (27 Dec 2015 16:28:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2015 16:28:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 20322@debbugs.gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 27 17:28:13 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aDEAz-0008Bk-Pj for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 27 Dec 2015 17:28:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42013 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aDEAy-00034K-Rr for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 27 Dec 2015 11:28:08 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45915) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aDEAv-000349-HF for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Dec 2015 11:28:06 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aDEAs-0003Iw-AL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Dec 2015 11:28:05 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:36964) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aDEAs-0003Ir-6o for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Dec 2015 11:28:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aDEAr-0007Fd-WD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Dec 2015 11:28:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2015 16:28:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20322 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 20322-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20322.145123367927863 (code B ref 20322); Sun, 27 Dec 2015 16:28:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 20322) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Dec 2015 16:27:59 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44566 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aDEAo-0007FL-QS for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 27 Dec 2015 11:27:58 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:54898) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aDEAm-0007F9-JH for 20322@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 27 Dec 2015 11:27:56 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aDEAe-0003Hm-60 for 20322@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 27 Dec 2015 11:27:51 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:43098) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aDEAe-0003Hi-2q; Sun, 27 Dec 2015 11:27:48 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:2283 helo=HOME-C4E4A596F7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aDEAd-00027e-GY; Sun, 27 Dec 2015 11:27:47 -0500 In-reply-to: <56800D72.9080300@yandex.ru> (message from Dmitry Gutov on Sun, 27 Dec 2015 18:10:26 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:110793 Archived-At: > Cc: 20322@debbugs.gnu.org > From: Dmitry Gutov > Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2015 18:10:26 +0200 > > On 12/27/2015 05:50 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > Given the proliferation of indentation that is default in Visual > > Studio, I'm guessing that this has almost nothing to do with people's > > preferences, and much more to do with the IDE they are using. > > If the majority are okay with the defaults, that doesn't mean people are > okay with *any* defaults. That might only mean that VS picked good defaults. I wouldn't go that far. A product that is forced on many developers doesn't have to pick good defaults. > And it's not like VS supports all (or even most) of the languages on > this list. Or is the predominant IDE of choice in all those communities. > You're probably only thinking about the C and C++ results. Yes, I thought about C, C++, and C#. Sorry for not making it clear.