From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#28597: 26.0.60; [Security] Configure should use --without-pop by default Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 20:42:25 +0300 Message-ID: <83a81d7666.fsf@gnu.org> References: <837ewh8x5z.fsf@gnu.org> <87r2upd2h5.fsf@gmail.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1506706995 30056 195.159.176.226 (29 Sep 2017 17:43:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 17:43:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: jwiegley@gmail.com, eggert@cs.ucla.edu, 28597@debbugs.gnu.org, nljlistbox2@gmail.com To: Robert Pluim Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 29 19:43:11 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dxzJY-0006yE-09 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 19:43:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36429 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dxzJf-0002ZF-DW for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 13:43:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33553) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dxzJZ-0002Yt-4k for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 13:43:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dxzJW-0000lq-1U for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 13:43:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:59095) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dxzJV-0000lj-UA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 13:43:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dxzJV-00066i-Lj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 13:43:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 17:43:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 28597 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 28597-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B28597.150670696223446 (code B ref 28597); Fri, 29 Sep 2017 17:43:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 28597) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Sep 2017 17:42:42 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39543 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dxzJC-000666-D3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 13:42:42 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:42351) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dxzJB-00065p-3v for 28597@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 13:42:41 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dxzJ2-0000MA-Qq for 28597@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 13:42:35 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:50067) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dxzJ2-0000M4-Mg; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 13:42:32 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1391 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1dxzJ2-0001Oe-6U; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 13:42:32 -0400 In-reply-to: <87r2upd2h5.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Robert Pluim on Fri, 29 Sep 2017 16:05:42 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:137619 Archived-At: > From: Robert Pluim > Cc: John Wiegley , nljlistbox2@gmail.com, eggert@cs.ucla.edu, 28597@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 16:05:42 +0200 > > I thought we were discussing making --without-pop be the default even > if GNU Mailutils are not available, and it's what I'm > advocating. Paul's patch only did that if they were found. If that's what people want, fine with me on Posix platforms, but not on MS-Windows (where Mailutils are not available, and probably never will be). > If that means that some people need to install GNU Mailutils, which > support secure(r) protocols, then I'm all in favour. But the effect of encouraging the installation of Mailutils will only be achieved if the configure script displays something about that. AFIU, the proposal was to make --without-pop the default and not display any message, in which case people just get movemail without POP3, and we might be silently breaking someone's setup. Do we want that?