* bug#30815: 26.0.91; unicode right single quote mark with syntax entry of w not respected by forward-word
@ 2018-03-14 0:14 Aaron Jensen
2018-03-14 1:11 ` Noam Postavsky
0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Aaron Jensen @ 2018-03-14 0:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 30815
Perhaps I'm doing something wrong or there's some setting I'm missing,
but this doesn't appear to work as I'd expect.
1. emacs -Q
2. M-: (modify-syntax-entry ?’ "w" text-mode-syntax-table)
3. Type (note the unicode ’): doesn’t
4. Use M-b/M-f to get to the beginning of the line and back to the end
Actual behavior:
M-b and M-f stop at the ’ instead of bypassing it. Compare it to doing
the same thing with ?_.
Expected behavior:
’ is treated as part of the word and is skipped over by M-f and M-b
In GNU Emacs 26.0.91 (build 1, x86_64-apple-darwin17.4.0, NS appkit-1561.20 Version 10.13.3 (Build 17D102))
of 2018-03-09 built on aaron-mbt.local
Repository revision: fbc7f9ae44a2a705e37cb7d1f9585cfaac8d13ee
Windowing system distributor 'Apple', version 10.3.1561
Recent messages:
mwheel-scroll: Beginning of buffer
evil-backward-char: Beginning of line
evil-line-move: Beginning of buffer [10 times]
evil-line-move: End of buffer [11 times]
evil-line-move: Beginning of buffer [24 times]
nil
evil-backward-char: Beginning of line [5 times]
(Inserted RIGHT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK; type ' for other options)
Configured using:
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* bug#30815: 26.0.91; unicode right single quote mark with syntax entry of w not respected by forward-word
2018-03-14 0:14 bug#30815: 26.0.91; unicode right single quote mark with syntax entry of w not respected by forward-word Aaron Jensen
@ 2018-03-14 1:11 ` Noam Postavsky
2018-03-14 2:07 ` Aaron Jensen
0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Noam Postavsky @ 2018-03-14 1:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Aaron Jensen; +Cc: 30815
unarchive 10494
close 30815
merge 30815 10494
quit
Aaron Jensen <aaronjensen@gmail.com> writes:
> Perhaps I'm doing something wrong or there's some setting I'm missing,
> but this doesn't appear to work as I'd expect.
>
> 1. emacs -Q
> 2. M-: (modify-syntax-entry ?’ "w" text-mode-syntax-table)
> 3. Type (note the unicode ’): doesn’t
> 4. Use M-b/M-f to get to the beginning of the line and back to the end
>
> Actual behavior:
>
> M-b and M-f stop at the ’ instead of bypassing it. Compare it to doing
> the same thing with ?_.
>
> Expected behavior:
>
> ’ is treated as part of the word and is skipped over by M-f and M-b
See `(elisp) Word Motion':
Characters that belong to different scripts (as defined by
`char-syntax-table'), also define a word boundary
and discussion in Bug#10494 which prompted the update of that section.
Hmm, I think I meant `char-script-table', as `char-syntax-table' doesn't
seem to exist...
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* bug#30815: 26.0.91; unicode right single quote mark with syntax entry of w not respected by forward-word
2018-03-14 1:11 ` Noam Postavsky
@ 2018-03-14 2:07 ` Aaron Jensen
2018-03-14 2:24 ` Noam Postavsky
0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Aaron Jensen @ 2018-03-14 2:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Noam Postavsky; +Cc: 30815
On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 6:11 PM, Noam Postavsky <npostavs@gmail.com> wrote:
> See `(elisp) Word Motion':
>
> Characters that belong to different scripts (as defined by
> `char-syntax-table'), also define a word boundary
>
> and discussion in Bug#10494 which prompted the update of that section.
>
> Hmm, I think I meant `char-script-table', as `char-syntax-table' doesn't
> seem to exist...
Thank you for the pointer. FWIW, I checked the docs of forward-word
which only talks about buffer syntax tables. Perhaps that should
either reference the Word Motion docs or it should also describe the
whole picture.
Also, as I understand the thread it seems like this is "by design" and
there's no good/accepted way to get it to behave as I want without
risking breaking unknown things.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* bug#30815: 26.0.91; unicode right single quote mark with syntax entry of w not respected by forward-word
2018-03-14 2:07 ` Aaron Jensen
@ 2018-03-14 2:24 ` Noam Postavsky
2018-03-14 2:43 ` Aaron Jensen
2018-03-14 15:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Noam Postavsky @ 2018-03-14 2:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Aaron Jensen; +Cc: 30815
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Aaron Jensen <aaronjensen@gmail.com> writes:
> Thank you for the pointer. FWIW, I checked the docs of forward-word
> which only talks about buffer syntax tables. Perhaps that should
> either reference the Word Motion docs or it should also describe the
> whole picture.
I think leaving the whole picture to the manual makes more sense.
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From 4c0a6f91b72aae7f43a93f2d286731fcd939fecd Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Noam Postavsky <npostavs@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2018 22:17:43 -0400
Subject: [PATCH] Improve word motion docs (Bug#30815)
* doc/lispref/positions.texi (Word Motion): Fix reference to
`char-script-table'.
* src/syntax.c (forward-word): Add link to 'Word Motion' manual
section.
---
doc/lispref/positions.texi | 2 +-
src/syntax.c | 3 ++-
2 files changed, 3 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
diff --git a/doc/lispref/positions.texi b/doc/lispref/positions.texi
index 0a03e246c0..fdc8bb96ae 100644
--- a/doc/lispref/positions.texi
+++ b/doc/lispref/positions.texi
@@ -210,7 +210,7 @@ Word Motion
modes can override that by setting up a suitable
@code{find-word-boundary-function-table}, described below. Characters
that belong to different scripts (as defined by
-@code{char-syntax-table}), also define a word boundary
+@code{char-script-table}), also define a word boundary
(@pxref{Character Properties}). In any case, this function cannot
move point past the boundary of the accessible portion of the buffer,
or across a field boundary (@pxref{Fields}). The most common case of
diff --git a/src/syntax.c b/src/syntax.c
index 378064611c..d3dd79229a 100644
--- a/src/syntax.c
+++ b/src/syntax.c
@@ -1555,7 +1555,8 @@ DEFUN ("forward-word", Fforward_word, Sforward_word, 0, 1, "^p",
table, but `find-word-boundary-function-table', such as set up
by `subword-mode', can change that. If a Lisp program needs to
move by words determined strictly by the syntax table, it should
-use `forward-word-strictly' instead. */)
+use `forward-word-strictly' instead. See Info node `(elisp) Word
+Motion' for details. */)
(Lisp_Object arg)
{
Lisp_Object tmp;
--
2.11.0
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> Also, as I understand the thread it seems like this is "by design" and
> there's no good/accepted way to get it to behave as I want without
> risking breaking unknown things.
Well, just taking the syntax entry as the sole source of truth and
ignoring the character script is probably the wrong thing.
Maybe there is some other way to get the wanted behaviour though. I
also found Bug#13129 asking about this.
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* bug#30815: 26.0.91; unicode right single quote mark with syntax entry of w not respected by forward-word
2018-03-14 2:24 ` Noam Postavsky
@ 2018-03-14 2:43 ` Aaron Jensen
2018-03-14 16:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-14 15:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Aaron Jensen @ 2018-03-14 2:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Noam Postavsky; +Cc: 30815
On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 7:24 PM, Noam Postavsky <npostavs@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think leaving the whole picture to the manual makes more sense.
Works for me. I think that patch will help. Would it be worth updating
`backward-word' as well, it has essentially the same docstring.
> Well, just taking the syntax entry as the sole source of truth and
> ignoring the character script is probably the wrong thing.
Is the case for this when two words of different scripts are next to
each other? I suppose that'd make sense if they also didn't have a
space between them for some reason (probably possible with some
languages)
> Maybe there is some other way to get the wanted behaviour though. I
> also found Bug#13129 asking about this.
Since the right quote is part of the General Punctuation script
(afaict), what if some scripts, like that one, were treated neutrally?
That is, they derived their behavior solely from the syntax entry.
This is probably a bad idea for a number of reasons I don't even know
I don't know.
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* bug#30815: 26.0.91; unicode right single quote mark with syntax entry of w not respected by forward-word
2018-03-14 2:24 ` Noam Postavsky
2018-03-14 2:43 ` Aaron Jensen
@ 2018-03-14 15:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-14 23:19 ` Noam Postavsky
1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2018-03-14 15:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Noam Postavsky; +Cc: 30815, aaronjensen
> From: Noam Postavsky <npostavs@gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2018 22:24:46 -0400
> Cc: 30815@debbugs.gnu.org
>
> diff --git a/src/syntax.c b/src/syntax.c
> index 378064611c..d3dd79229a 100644
> --- a/src/syntax.c
> +++ b/src/syntax.c
> @@ -1555,7 +1555,8 @@ DEFUN ("forward-word", Fforward_word, Sforward_word, 0, 1, "^p",
> table, but `find-word-boundary-function-table', such as set up
> by `subword-mode', can change that. If a Lisp program needs to
> move by words determined strictly by the syntax table, it should
> -use `forward-word-strictly' instead. */)
> +use `forward-word-strictly' instead. See Info node `(elisp) Word
> +Motion' for details. */)
I think we should at least mention char-script-table before sending
the reader to the manual. Currently we mention the syntax table, but
keep complete silence regarding the script differences.
Thanks.
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* bug#30815: 26.0.91; unicode right single quote mark with syntax entry of w not respected by forward-word
2018-03-14 2:43 ` Aaron Jensen
@ 2018-03-14 16:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-14 17:43 ` Aaron Jensen
0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2018-03-14 16:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Aaron Jensen; +Cc: 30815, npostavs
> From: Aaron Jensen <aaronjensen@gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2018 19:43:03 -0700
> Cc: 30815@debbugs.gnu.org
>
> Is the case for this when two words of different scripts are next to
> each other? I suppose that'd make sense if they also didn't have a
> space between them for some reason (probably possible with some
> languages)
>
> > Maybe there is some other way to get the wanted behaviour though. I
> > also found Bug#13129 asking about this.
>
> Since the right quote is part of the General Punctuation script
> (afaict), what if some scripts, like that one, were treated neutrally?
> That is, they derived their behavior solely from the syntax entry.
> This is probably a bad idea for a number of reasons I don't even know
> I don't know.
We could introduce a new script, say, 'punctuation', and treat that
specially. Doing that with all the characters of the 'symbol' script
is probably not what users will expect, I invite you to look in
charscript.el where you will see what Unicode blocks belong to
'symbol'. So we will have to decide which characters to assign to
that new script.
But before we discuss this issue more, I think we need to talk about
the goals. E.g., is this only for text-derived modes, or also for
programming modes? More generally, why did you want to change the
syntax entry of ’ ?
The next question is what other characters need this special handling,
and how many of them are there?
Armed with answers to these questions, we could then decide how to
implement the requested feature, if at all.
Btw, you should know that in some quarters using ’ as an apostrophe is
anathema: they maintain one should use u+02B7 MODIFIER LETTER
APOSTROPHE instead, in particular because it doesn't have the script
disparity issue in this context. See, for example, this URL:
https://tedclancy.wordpress.com/2015/06/03/which-unicode-character-should-represent-the-english-apostrophe-and-why-the-unicode-committee-is-very-wrong/
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* bug#30815: 26.0.91; unicode right single quote mark with syntax entry of w not respected by forward-word
2018-03-14 16:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2018-03-14 17:43 ` Aaron Jensen
2018-03-14 17:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Aaron Jensen @ 2018-03-14 17:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 30815, Noam Postavsky
On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 9:09 AM, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
> But before we discuss this issue more, I think we need to talk about
> the goals. E.g., is this only for text-derived modes, or also for
> programming modes? More generally, why did you want to change the
> syntax entry of ’ ?
I wanted to change it because I started to use typo-mode:
https://github.com/jorgenschaefer/typoel which automatically turned
apostrophes I typed into right quotes in my org-mode files (which is
where I had it enabled). I was ok with this, but I wanted them to
behave like apostrophes did (not being word boundaries and all) so I
went down this path.
I have since unbound ' in that mode, so it just inserts a normal
apostrophe. I'm aware of the "controversy" surrounding the different
characters and, to be honest, I can't be bothered. Filing this bug was
a light weight attempt to see if I was missing something and/or if
this was unexpected.
For right quote in particular, it's probably even more nuanced. One
could use right quotes to close a single quoted piece of text. In
which case, that right quote probably shouldn't be a "word" in the
syntax table.
Because of all of that, I'm totally happy just using ' like a normal
person. I'm not an author writing manuscripts.
> The next question is what other characters need this special handling,
> and how many of them are there?
I do not know. None others that I know of, but that doesn't mean much.
> Btw, you should know that in some quarters using ’ as an apostrophe is
> anathema: they maintain one should use u+02B7 MODIFIER LETTER
> APOSTROPHE instead, in particular because it doesn't have the script
> disparity issue in this context. See, for example, this URL:
>
> https://tedclancy.wordpress.com/2015/06/03/which-unicode-character-should-represent-the-english-apostrophe-and-why-the-unicode-committee-is-very-wrong/
This is convincing enough for me and I didn't actually know about
U+02BC. That appears to work as it should out of the box. I'll open an
issue on typo-mode to see if they can add support for that.
I'm happy to consider this issue resolved (I know it's closed and was
merged into 10494) if everyone else is after the doc changes have been
merged in.
Thanks.
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* bug#30815: 26.0.91; unicode right single quote mark with syntax entry of w not respected by forward-word
2018-03-14 17:43 ` Aaron Jensen
@ 2018-03-14 17:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2018-03-14 17:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Aaron Jensen; +Cc: 30815, npostavs
> From: Aaron Jensen <aaronjensen@gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 10:43:08 -0700
> Cc: Noam Postavsky <npostavs@gmail.com>, 30815@debbugs.gnu.org
>
> I wanted to change it because I started to use typo-mode:
> https://github.com/jorgenschaefer/typoel which automatically turned
> apostrophes I typed into right quotes in my org-mode files (which is
> where I had it enabled). I was ok with this, but I wanted them to
> behave like apostrophes did (not being word boundaries and all) so I
> went down this path.
>
> I have since unbound ' in that mode, so it just inserts a normal
> apostrophe. I'm aware of the "controversy" surrounding the different
> characters and, to be honest, I can't be bothered. Filing this bug was
> a light weight attempt to see if I was missing something and/or if
> this was unexpected.
>
> For right quote in particular, it's probably even more nuanced. One
> could use right quotes to close a single quoted piece of text. In
> which case, that right quote probably shouldn't be a "word" in the
> syntax table.
>
> Because of all of that, I'm totally happy just using ' like a normal
> person. I'm not an author writing manuscripts.
>
> > The next question is what other characters need this special handling,
> > and how many of them are there?
>
> I do not know. None others that I know of, but that doesn't mean much.
Well, if this is just about ’ , then we could simply change its script
to be 'latin'. But, as you say, that would get in the way with quoted
text.
> I'm happy to consider this issue resolved (I know it's closed and was
> merged into 10494) if everyone else is after the doc changes have been
> merged in.
OK, let's wait for other comments, and consider this resolved if none
come up.
Thanks.
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* bug#30815: 26.0.91; unicode right single quote mark with syntax entry of w not respected by forward-word
2018-03-14 15:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2018-03-14 23:19 ` Noam Postavsky
2018-03-15 6:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Noam Postavsky @ 2018-03-14 23:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 30815, aaronjensen
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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> I think we should at least mention char-script-table before sending
> the reader to the manual. Currently we mention the syntax table, but
> keep complete silence regarding the script differences.
But if we give away everything in the doc string, nobody will read the
manual ;)
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From a37a09873b962e4fc273c690b34ed9aa43d17dd6 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Noam Postavsky <npostavs@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2018 22:17:43 -0400
Subject: [PATCH] Improve word motion docs (Bug#30815)
* doc/lispref/positions.texi (Word Motion): Fix reference to
`char-script-table'.
* lisp/simple.el (backward-word):
* src/syntax.c (forward-word): Mention `char-script-table' and add
link to the 'Word Motion' manual section.
---
doc/lispref/positions.texi | 2 +-
lisp/simple.el | 12 +++++++-----
src/syntax.c | 9 +++++----
3 files changed, 13 insertions(+), 10 deletions(-)
diff --git a/doc/lispref/positions.texi b/doc/lispref/positions.texi
index 0a03e246c0..fdc8bb96ae 100644
--- a/doc/lispref/positions.texi
+++ b/doc/lispref/positions.texi
@@ -210,7 +210,7 @@ Word Motion
modes can override that by setting up a suitable
@code{find-word-boundary-function-table}, described below. Characters
that belong to different scripts (as defined by
-@code{char-syntax-table}), also define a word boundary
+@code{char-script-table}), also define a word boundary
(@pxref{Character Properties}). In any case, this function cannot
move point past the boundary of the accessible portion of the buffer,
or across a field boundary (@pxref{Fields}). The most common case of
diff --git a/lisp/simple.el b/lisp/simple.el
index b7ad6ebd79..d8abeb3000 100644
--- a/lisp/simple.el
+++ b/lisp/simple.el
@@ -7027,11 +7027,13 @@ backward-word
With argument ARG, do this that many times.
If ARG is omitted or nil, move point backward one word.
-The word boundaries are normally determined by the buffer's syntax
-table, but `find-word-boundary-function-table', such as set up
-by `subword-mode', can change that. If a Lisp program needs to
-move by words determined strictly by the syntax table, it should
-use `backward-word-strictly' instead."
+The word boundaries are normally determined by the buffer's
+syntax table and character script (according to
+`char-script-table'), but `find-word-boundary-function-table',
+such as set up by `subword-mode', can change that. If a Lisp
+program needs to move by words determined strictly by the syntax
+table, it should use `backward-word-strictly' instead. See Info
+node `(elisp) Word Motion' for details."
(interactive "^p")
(forward-word (- (or arg 1))))
diff --git a/src/syntax.c b/src/syntax.c
index 378064611c..e54325589f 100644
--- a/src/syntax.c
+++ b/src/syntax.c
@@ -1552,10 +1552,11 @@ DEFUN ("forward-word", Fforward_word, Sforward_word, 0, 1, "^p",
noticed if `inhibit-field-text-motion' is non-nil.
The word boundaries are normally determined by the buffer's syntax
-table, but `find-word-boundary-function-table', such as set up
-by `subword-mode', can change that. If a Lisp program needs to
-move by words determined strictly by the syntax table, it should
-use `forward-word-strictly' instead. */)
+table and character script (according to `char-script-table'), but
+`find-word-boundary-function-table', such as set up by `subword-mode',
+can change that. If a Lisp program needs to move by words determined
+strictly by the syntax table, it should use `forward-word-strictly'
+instead. See Info node `(elisp) Word Motion' for details. */)
(Lisp_Object arg)
{
Lisp_Object tmp;
--
2.11.0
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* bug#30815: 26.0.91; unicode right single quote mark with syntax entry of w not respected by forward-word
2018-03-14 23:19 ` Noam Postavsky
@ 2018-03-15 6:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-17 0:03 ` Noam Postavsky
0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2018-03-15 6:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Noam Postavsky; +Cc: 30815, aaronjensen
> From: Noam Postavsky <npostavs@gmail.com>
> Cc: 30815@debbugs.gnu.org, aaronjensen@gmail.com
> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 19:19:22 -0400
>
> But if we give away everything in the doc string, nobody will read the
> manual ;)
Right.
> >From a37a09873b962e4fc273c690b34ed9aa43d17dd6 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> From: Noam Postavsky <npostavs@gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2018 22:17:43 -0400
> Subject: [PATCH] Improve word motion docs (Bug#30815)
>
> * doc/lispref/positions.texi (Word Motion): Fix reference to
> `char-script-table'.
> * lisp/simple.el (backward-word):
> * src/syntax.c (forward-word): Mention `char-script-table' and add
> link to the 'Word Motion' manual section.
LGTM, thanks.
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* bug#30815: 26.0.91; unicode right single quote mark with syntax entry of w not respected by forward-word
2018-03-15 6:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2018-03-17 0:03 ` Noam Postavsky
0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Noam Postavsky @ 2018-03-17 0:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 30815, aaronjensen
close 13129
merge 30815 13129
quit
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>> Subject: [PATCH] Improve word motion docs (Bug#30815)
> LGTM, thanks.
Pushed to emacs-26.
[1: 10bd3b3af8]: 2018-03-16 19:51:28 -0400
Improve word motion docs (Bug#30815)
https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/commit/?id=10bd3b3af8acfc226acadc654298865cffc19cc9
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