From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#31231: Symbol search broken in NEWS and ChangeLogs Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 05:33:30 +0300 Message-ID: <83a7ttwcxx.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87604kqpji.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83vacjw4dn.fsf@gnu.org> <87y3he7vn4.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83sh7mwt2u.fsf@gnu.org> <8736zlznjq.fsf@mail.linkov.net> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1524537129 27473 195.159.176.226 (24 Apr 2018 02:32:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 02:32:09 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 31231@debbugs.gnu.org To: Juri Linkov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 24 04:32:04 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fAnkP-0006wF-Cn for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 Apr 2018 04:32:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56227 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fAnmW-0004Xv-8O for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 23 Apr 2018 22:34:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54344) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fAnmQ-0004Vg-0T for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Apr 2018 22:34:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fAnmM-00087C-2K for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Apr 2018 22:34:06 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:57897) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fAnmL-000875-VC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Apr 2018 22:34:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fAnmL-0004Jy-Mn for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Apr 2018 22:34:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 02:34:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 31231 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 31231-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B31231.152453723016592 (code B ref 31231); Tue, 24 Apr 2018 02:34:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 31231) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Apr 2018 02:33:50 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37561 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fAnm9-0004JY-OR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 23 Apr 2018 22:33:49 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:35074) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fAnm7-0004JL-UW for 31231@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 23 Apr 2018 22:33:48 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fAnly-0007ym-Vi for 31231@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 23 Apr 2018 22:33:42 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:54305) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fAnly-0007yi-S2; Mon, 23 Apr 2018 22:33:38 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3993 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1fAnly-0000jt-5V; Mon, 23 Apr 2018 22:33:38 -0400 In-reply-to: <8736zlznjq.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (message from Juri Linkov on Mon, 23 Apr 2018 23:16:09 +0300) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:145718 Archived-At: > From: Juri Linkov > Cc: 31231@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 23:16:09 +0300 > > >> But how these text terminals display Unicode quotes in Info manuals? > > > > Info manuals are displayed by an Info reader, and each Info reader has > > its own solution for this problem (generally, substitution of ASCII > > characters for undisplayable Unicode ones). > > Does the Emacs Info reader implement such solution? Emacs itself does, not just in Info. The standalone Info reader (part of the Texinfo package) has a slightly different solution. > > I was talking about reading NEWS in a general-purpose text-browsing > > program, such as Less. It is IMO not a good idea to prevent people > > from doing that and requiring them to only read NEWS and ChangeLog > > files in Emacs. > > When I tried to read NEWS using Less in xterm, I can see all these > quotes in UTF-8, for example, the quotes in “like this”. I guess that's because your text terminal supports UTF-8. > Every symbol in NEWS quoted by either ‘straight’ quoting style 'like this', > or ‘grave’ `like this'. For example, for 'electric-quote-replace-double' > starting Isearch with ‘M-s .’, and repeating the same symbol search in the > source code. I'm asking what us the problem not to use "M-s ." in those cases, and instead to look for the symbol as a literal string. I think in a file like NEWS this shouldn't yield too many false hits.