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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Werner LEMBERG <wl@gnu.org>
Cc: 31315@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#31315: wrong font encoding for fallback font
Date: Thu, 03 May 2018 20:48:44 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83a7tgpr43.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180503.075227.154521786744892904.wl@gnu.org> (message from Werner LEMBERG on Thu, 03 May 2018 07:52:27 +0200 (CEST))

> Date: Thu, 03 May 2018 07:52:27 +0200 (CEST)
> Cc: handa@gnu.org, 31315@debbugs.gnu.org
> From: Werner LEMBERG <wl@gnu.org>
> 
> > Emacs employs that logic for every charset it has defined, including
> > Latin-2, for example: if text was decoded from an encoding which
> > supports a particular charset, Emacs puts the corresponding
> > 'charset' text property on the decoded text, and the machinery which
> > selects the appropriate font tries first to find a font which
> > supports that charset.  The idea is that users in a particular
> > culture have certain distinct preferences wrt fonts, and that an
> > encoding that supports a certain charset or culture provides a hint
> > about those preferences.  This idea is very central in how Emacs
> > selects fonts.
> 
> Being the FreeType maintainer, and having co-developed Emacs's
> internal buffer encoding scheme many, many years ago, I all know this.

Sorry, I couldn't know that.

> I can only repeat that Emacs might tag a certain text with GB18030 so
> that the user can deduce a Chinese origin.  However, there is *no*
> guarantee that the user gets a Chinese-flavoured font – at least not
> from the xft interface.[**]

IME, there's no guarantee about anything in the Emacs font look up
heuristics, except that empirically it does TRT in about 85% of uses.

May I invite you to work on revisiting the design and implementation
of the Emacs font-look up facilities, and on modernizing them?  I'm
afraid we didn't have an active developer in this area for several
years, and I fear that we will stagnate (or already are stagnating).

TIA





  reply	other threads:[~2018-05-03 17:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-30  7:21 bug#31315: wrong font encoding for fallback font Werner LEMBERG
2018-04-30 15:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-04-30 15:42   ` Andreas Schwab
2018-04-30 19:26     ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-04-30 20:03       ` Andreas Schwab
2018-05-01  2:37         ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-05-01  6:47         ` Werner LEMBERG
2018-05-01  8:13           ` Andreas Schwab
2018-05-01  9:11             ` Werner LEMBERG
2018-05-01 15:00               ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-05-01 17:42                 ` Andreas Schwab
2018-05-05  8:57                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-05-01  6:36   ` Werner LEMBERG
2018-05-01 15:22     ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-05-01 19:30       ` Werner LEMBERG
2018-05-02  7:27         ` Werner LEMBERG
2018-05-02 15:22         ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-05-03  5:52           ` Werner LEMBERG
2018-05-03 17:48             ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2018-05-03 19:05               ` Werner LEMBERG
2018-05-03 19:59                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-05-04  5:11                   ` Werner LEMBERG
2018-05-04 13:05                     ` Eli Zaretskii

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