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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
Cc: andrewjmoreton@gmail.com, pipcet@gmail.com, 32463@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#32463: 27.0.50; (logior -1) => 4611686018427387903
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2018 21:59:49 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83a7pjfql6.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3a6f17af-018e-cb0b-5182-cf736b3a814c@cs.ucla.edu> (message from Paul Eggert on Sat, 18 Aug 2018 11:48:11 -0700)

> From: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
> Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2018 11:48:11 -0700
> Cc: 32463@debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> It would be weird for lsh to act one way for negative bignums, and a different 
> and incompatible way for negative fixnums. Instead, I suggest that we deprecate 
> lsh, as it doesn't make sense any more now that integers have unbounded size. 

It is IMO absurd for us to deprecate a valid and useful operation just
because we added bignums.  If we cannot agree on its semantics for
bignums (which would surprise me), then it is better to make it not
work for bignums at all than deprecate it for fixnums.

> While we're deprecating it, we can make (lsh A B) signal an error if A is a 
> bignum and B is negative, since there's nothing we can do there that is 
> reasonable and is compatible with the fixnum behavior.

If that's the best we can do, fine.  But it doesn't require
deprecating lsh while we are at it.





  reply	other threads:[~2018-08-18 18:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-08-17  3:29 bug#32463: 27.0.50; (logior -1) => 4611686018427387903 Katsumi Yamaoka
2018-08-17  5:59 ` Pip Cet
2018-08-17  7:40   ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2018-08-17  9:27   ` Andy Moreton
2018-08-17 11:36     ` Pip Cet
2018-08-17 11:53       ` Pip Cet
2018-08-17 13:27         ` Andy Moreton
2018-08-18 22:43         ` Paul Eggert
2018-08-17 13:24       ` Andy Moreton
2018-08-18 18:48       ` Paul Eggert
2018-08-18 18:59         ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2018-08-18 19:58           ` Pip Cet
2018-08-18 22:27             ` Paul Eggert
2018-08-19 15:03             ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-18 19:59           ` Paul Eggert
2018-08-18 19:45         ` Andy Moreton
2018-08-19 10:43           ` Live System User
2018-08-20  3:02       ` Richard Stallman
2018-08-20  3:47         ` Paul Eggert
2018-08-21  3:37           ` Richard Stallman
2018-08-18 22:56 ` Paul Eggert
2018-08-18 23:17   ` Paul Eggert
2018-08-19 10:34   ` Andy Moreton
2018-08-19 10:48   ` Pip Cet
2018-08-19 10:59     ` Paul Eggert
2018-08-19 11:32       ` Pip Cet
2018-08-21  9:40         ` Paul Eggert
2018-08-21 10:50           ` Andy Moreton
2018-08-21 14:36           ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-21 14:52             ` Andy Moreton
2018-08-21 17:24             ` Paul Eggert
2018-08-19 10:52   ` Paul Eggert
2018-08-22  2:29     ` Paul Eggert
2018-08-22 16:56   ` Tom Tromey
2018-08-22 17:52     ` Paul Eggert
2018-08-22 18:25       ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-23  0:28         ` Paul Eggert
2018-08-23  2:39           ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-19 18:00 ` Andy Moreton
2018-08-22  2:34 ` Paul Eggert
2018-08-22 23:27   ` Andy Moreton
2018-08-23 14:05     ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-22  2:56 ` Paul Eggert
2018-08-22  8:20   ` Andy Moreton
2018-08-22  8:39 ` Andy Moreton

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