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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: 38051@debbugs.gnu.org, stefan@marxist.se
Subject: bug#38051: 26.3; (elisp) `Insertion' use of verb "point"
Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2019 21:11:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83a796b2tx.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3b0f7464-a74f-4687-b91b-b654697cc1cc@default> (message from Drew Adams on Fri, 8 Nov 2019 17:53:06 +0000 (UTC))

> Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2019 17:53:06 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
> Cc: 38051@debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> 1. From a user point of view (conceptual model),
>    markers _are_ objects that can be located
>    _in_ a buffer, _at_ buffer positions.

That is incorrect.  A marker stores a buffer and a location within
that buffer, but it isn't itself located in a buffer.

> 3. When we document `char-after', we don't say
>    that the char (which is conceptually _in_ the
>    buffer) "points at" a buffer position.  We
>    say "Return the character _in_ current buffer
>    _at_ position POS."
> 
>    Markers, like characters, are at buffer
>    positions (chars are actually after, not at).

See above: that's correct about characters, but incorrect about
markers.

> This is how we treat overlays.

Overlays are completely different beasts.





  reply	other threads:[~2019-11-08 19:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-03 21:26 bug#38051: 26.3; (elisp) `Insertion' use of verb "point" Drew Adams
2019-11-04 17:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-08  0:36 ` Stefan Kangas
2019-11-08 17:53   ` Drew Adams
2019-11-08 19:11     ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
     [not found] <<10c2ca80-b3d5-4efb-a2b1-5ded0cc8a14d@default>
     [not found] ` <<83sgn3h7yj.fsf@gnu.org>
2019-11-04 18:10   ` Drew Adams
2019-11-04 18:36     ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found] ` <<874kzfyzk5.fsf@marxist.se>
     [not found]   ` <<3b0f7464-a74f-4687-b91b-b654697cc1cc@default>
     [not found]     ` <<83a796b2tx.fsf@gnu.org>
2019-11-08 19:56       ` Drew Adams
2019-11-08 20:14         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-09 14:55           ` Stefan Kangas

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