From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#40671: [DOC] modify literal objects Date: Fri, 01 May 2020 09:23:10 +0300 Message-ID: <83a72sw4vl.fsf@gnu.org> References: <530d3597-aaaa-f019-bafa-8229d13e7248@yandex.ru> <60b88f52-c50d-c57a-9ce5-495e6157d36e@cs.ucla.edu> <0721d8c1-4fe3-335c-7dbc-171487cb648a@yandex.ru> <6d1015da-0dc1-376c-f84b-5e3ee3149213@cs.ucla.edu> <286139d2-bbe1-2d5a-bec1-f781666376f1@yandex.ru> <10b89e6f-6fa6-f855-65b6-3361a74472d3@cs.ucla.edu> <8542efe2-c4a6-1da5-2513-7ffcaa6c4ec9@yandex.ru> <293d0eab-4617-08fe-aafa-d6841a750af0@cs.ucla.edu> <4085994e-f42d-b90f-9c86-ad42689bbff2@yandex.ru> <9cfc3b63-7df6-145a-8a78-e3320b6d3861@cs.ucla.edu> <72399223-0ab5-dbe4-5027-d929450a4df0@yandex.ru> <1a2d0454-baa4-9831-0e2c-4411eda1c2fe@yandex.ru> <278a1350-8b9e-4f3b-854a-723d578129f3@default> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="74230"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: ke.vigouroux@laposte.net, eggert@cs.ucla.edu, 40671@debbugs.gnu.org, michael_heerdegen@web.de, mattiase@acm.org, dgutov@yandex.ru To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri May 01 08:24:10 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jUP5m-000JCB-6g for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 01 May 2020 08:24:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43334 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jUP5k-0006nH-W1 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 01 May 2020 02:24:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:51362) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jUP5e-0006my-Qg for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 May 2020 02:24:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jUP5e-0000Fm-BE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 May 2020 02:24:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:36581) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jUP5d-0000Fc-VU for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 May 2020 02:24:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jUP5d-0002nP-RL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 May 2020 02:24:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 01 May 2020 06:24:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 40671 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 40671-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B40671.158831422110720 (code B ref 40671); Fri, 01 May 2020 06:24:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 40671) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 May 2020 06:23:41 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48127 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jUP5F-0002mn-KO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 May 2020 02:23:41 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:47734) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jUP5D-0002mZ-S7 for 40671@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 May 2020 02:23:36 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:38361) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jUP57-0007SI-MZ; Fri, 01 May 2020 02:23:29 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2387 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jUP50-0001tp-LJ; Fri, 01 May 2020 02:23:23 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Richard Stallman on Thu, 30 Apr 2020 22:47:32 -0400) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:179421 Archived-At: > From: Richard Stallman > Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2020 22:47:32 -0400 > Cc: ke.vigouroux@laposte.net, 40671@debbugs.gnu.org, michael_heerdegen@web.de, > mattiase@acm.org, dgutov@yandex.ru > > To a purist, the vagueness about what happens to Emacs if you modify > code at the wrong time may seem intolerable. If there were an easy > and painless way to implement well-defined behavior, it might be worth > doing so. But there isn't. > > This isn't a big difficulty in practice. It isn't worth sacrificing > anything that matters. I agree, but the practical problem is that we have a couple of purists on board, for whom this is an itch they scratch not too infrequently.