From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#43148: 27.1; Widget text seems to disappear when building with Cairo and Xaw Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2020 19:48:41 +0300 Message-ID: <83a6y9wihi.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87bliqnsnv.fsf@PouarArch.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <83ft81wpv5.fsf@gnu.org> <83d035wl4c.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="33897"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: pouar@pouar.net, 43148@debbugs.gnu.org To: Robert Pluim Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 01 18:50:09 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kD9U1-0008jW-M2 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 01 Sep 2020 18:50:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38344 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kD9U0-0001wb-Ka for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 01 Sep 2020 12:50:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45768) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kD9Tu-0001tP-GU for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Sep 2020 12:50:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:45496) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kD9Tu-0002Vf-7B for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Sep 2020 12:50:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kD9Tu-0004xH-5B for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Sep 2020 12:50:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2020 16:50:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 43148 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 43148-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B43148.159897894818956 (code B ref 43148); Tue, 01 Sep 2020 16:50:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 43148) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Sep 2020 16:49:08 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57029 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kD9T1-0004vg-O3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Sep 2020 12:49:07 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:35316) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kD9Sy-0004vA-J5 for 43148@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Sep 2020 12:49:05 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:54957) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kD9St-0002Ox-10; Tue, 01 Sep 2020 12:48:59 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4762 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kD9Ss-0005OL-Du; Tue, 01 Sep 2020 12:48:58 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Robert Pluim on Tue, 01 Sep 2020 18:13:10 +0200) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:186871 Archived-At: > From: Robert Pluim > Cc: pouar@pouar.net, 43148@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2020 18:13:10 +0200 > > >> Putting on my 'let's simplify' hat, is this really a combination we > >> want to spend time on? Lucid + Xaw + Cairo is decidedly non-mainstream > >> (Iʼm surprised it even builds). > > Eli> I wasn't aware that it's a rare configuration. We definitely support > Eli> Lucid, right? If so, is Xaw the problem? and if it is, what are the > Eli> alternatives that are less "non-mainstream"? > > Lucid + Xaw is common enough, itʼs mixing in Cairo thatʼs uncommon. To > me, Cairo pretty much implies GTK. Surely, given our troubled experiences with GTK, we don't want to have it as a single toolkit supported in the Cairo build?