From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#45143: Missing source for some doc/misc manuals (moral-issue) Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2021 19:28:13 +0200 Message-ID: <83a6s27geq.fsf@gnu.org> References: <3y4kku7u8d.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <3pft2gpyn5.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <0nmtw32qvz.fsf_-_@fencepost.gnu.org> <87ft1vdqvr.fsf@gmail.com> <87mtw2ydl5.fsf@tcd.ie> <87blcieoze.fsf@gmail.com> <83ft1u7k1w.fsf@gnu.org> <877dn6ekld.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="631"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: contovob@tcd.ie, rgm@gnu.org, 45143@debbugs.gnu.org To: Robert Pluim Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 17 18:30:19 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lCQeZ-000Adq-FU for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 17 Feb 2021 18:30:19 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46224 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lCQeY-00048Q-HK for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 17 Feb 2021 12:30:18 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45672) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lCQdK-0003YH-RU for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Feb 2021 12:29:07 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:33268) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lCQdK-0007Ag-Kn for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Feb 2021 12:29:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lCQdK-0007ic-Go for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Feb 2021 12:29:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2021 17:29:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 45143 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 45143-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B45143.161358289829618 (code B ref 45143); Wed, 17 Feb 2021 17:29:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 45143) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Feb 2021 17:28:18 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44814 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lCQcb-0007hd-R6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 17 Feb 2021 12:28:18 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:55816) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lCQca-0007hR-JM for 45143@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 17 Feb 2021 12:28:16 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:50941) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lCQcU-0006wd-QT; Wed, 17 Feb 2021 12:28:10 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:2679 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1lCQcQ-0004yy-Nw; Wed, 17 Feb 2021 12:28:09 -0500 In-Reply-To: <877dn6ekld.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Robert Pluim on Wed, 17 Feb 2021 17:15:58 +0100) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:200208 Archived-At: > From: Robert Pluim > Cc: contovob@tcd.ie, rgm@gnu.org, 45143@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2021 17:15:58 +0100 > > Eli> Not necessarily. having the instructions in the README should be > Eli> enough. (Making Info from .org as part of the build could be > Eli> problematic, since we need a functional Emacs for that. While that > Eli> could be done, I don't see why we should bother.) > > We need a functional emacs to byte-compile files as well, I donʼt see > why this is any different. It's a complication, since we generally build the manuals right at the beginning. > In my mind, source code without the accompanying build instructions is > incomplete (unless you count the README as those instructions). I do count README as instructions for this purpose.