From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#48117: 28.0.50; Update of loaddefs.el during normal build is unreliable Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2021 19:00:55 +0300 Message-ID: <83a6pfbw3s.fsf@gnu.org> References: <8335v8c7o0.fsf@gnu.org> <83lf8zbyr8.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="9046"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 48117@debbugs.gnu.org To: Gregory Heytings Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 30 18:10:57 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lcVjF-0002F5-Bb for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 30 Apr 2021 18:10:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39028 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lcVjE-000643-AJ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 30 Apr 2021 12:10:56 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52246) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lcVad-0007dO-HT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Apr 2021 12:02:04 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:48107) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lcVac-0005ER-Fb for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Apr 2021 12:02:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lcVac-0000Qy-Cm for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Apr 2021 12:02:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2021 16:02:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 48117 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 48117-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B48117.161979847631929 (code B ref 48117); Fri, 30 Apr 2021 16:02:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 48117) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Apr 2021 16:01:16 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59653 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lcVZs-0008If-Ap for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 30 Apr 2021 12:01:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:43764) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lcVZq-0008CU-16 for 48117@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 30 Apr 2021 12:01:14 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:50184) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lcVZk-0004x8-Lm; Fri, 30 Apr 2021 12:01:08 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:2974 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1lcVZc-0000Ue-Qo; Fri, 30 Apr 2021 12:01:03 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Gregory Heytings on Fri, 30 Apr 2021 15:47:51 +0000) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:205274 Archived-At: > Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2021 15:47:51 +0000 > From: Gregory Heytings > cc: 48117@debbugs.gnu.org > > Why are these files not versioned? Because we try not to keep in Git any files that are generated by the build. It's redundant to have them there, and also causes frequent unnecessary conflicts. > The generated lisp/loaddefs.el file is AFAICS identical to the > lisp/ldefs-boot.el (after calling admin/update_autogen -L), which is > versioned. Why is the lisp/loaddefs.el generated? ldefs-boot.el is versioned because it is needed for the initial build of a fresh clone, and it is not identical to loaddefs.el, especially not when you are developing.