From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#36649: 27.0.50; pure space and pdumper Date: Mon, 17 May 2021 17:23:50 +0300 Message-ID: <83a6ottp55.fsf@gnu.org> References: <4c1248b8-88cc-ca06-6bc8-9f0bb9a98c98@cs.ucla.edu> <87mtt0hupl.fsf@gnus.org> <83mtt02dyz.fsf@gnu.org> <877dk3hoko.fsf@gnus.org> <87y2cjg9mu.fsf@gnus.org> <83a6oz3lpm.fsf@gnu.org> <87lf8jg8o2.fsf@gnus.org> <838s4j3l2e.fsf@gnu.org> <87h7j7g7ft.fsf@gnus.org> <878s4jg67i.fsf@gnus.org> <834kf73iim.fsf@gnu.org> <874kf7g54z.fsf@gnus.org> <8335ur3hu8.fsf@gnu.org> <83a6oy20bj.fsf@gnu.org> <87a6oupzn1.fsf@gnus.org> <85567d83-7ec6-c5e7-81f2-74b0b310eefc@cs.ucla.edu> <83k0nxu062.fsf@gnu.org> <87y2cdjvjh.fsf@gnus.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="18943"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: eggert@cs.ucla.edu, rpluim@gmail.com, stefan@marxist.se, schwab@linux-m68k.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, pipcet@gmail.com, 36649@debbugs.gnu.org, akrl@sdf.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon May 17 16:25:13 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lieBD-0004cx-D8 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 17 May 2021 16:25:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51130 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lieBC-0000W9-Aw for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 17 May 2021 10:25:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55488) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lieB4-0000Vk-9j for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 May 2021 10:25:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:41788) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lieB4-0004p1-1O for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 May 2021 10:25:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lieB3-0005Ep-TE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 May 2021 10:25:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 17 May 2021 14:25:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 36649 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 36649-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B36649.162126146220074 (code B ref 36649); Mon, 17 May 2021 14:25:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 36649) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 May 2021 14:24:22 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53326 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lieAK-0005DW-MH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 May 2021 10:24:22 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:33422) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lieAE-0005DG-Sc for 36649@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 May 2021 10:24:15 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:43938) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lieA7-0004C1-7A; Mon, 17 May 2021 10:24:03 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:4216 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lie9s-0005Jp-W4; Mon, 17 May 2021 10:24:03 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87y2cdjvjh.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Mon, 17 May 2021 16:15:46 +0200) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:206709 Archived-At: > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Cc: Paul Eggert , rpluim@gmail.com, stefan@marxist.se, > schwab@linux-m68k.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, pipcet@gmail.com, > 36649@debbugs.gnu.org, akrl@sdf.org > Date: Mon, 17 May 2021 16:15:46 +0200 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > Since we decided not to remove unexec in Emacs 28, we do need to keep > > the unexec configuration working. So I find it unfortunate that you > > keep saying that, because the result is a direct contradiction of what > > we decided. > > Well, if we decided something at one point, we can decide something else > now. We can, but we really shouldn't in this case. We never remove obsolete features so quickly, and I see no reason to do this now. > The question is whether it makes sense to spend time trying to fix > something that's not being used. Keeping unexec around in a broken > state isn't very satisfying, and worries about unexec is what's stalling > the removal of pure space, too. > > So at this point I think I'd rather just remove unexec now instead of > waiting until Emacs 29. I see no reason for the rush, Emacs 28 is not around the corner anyway. We have enough new and important features there that will take us time to shake out all the bugs and stabilize the codebase. If no one else is willing to debug the unexec problems, I will do it myself, at my own pace. Just leave it to me.