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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Phil Sainty <psainty@orcon.net.nz>
Cc: larsi@gnus.org, p.d.oliver@mavit.org.uk, 49424@debbugs.gnu.org,
	rpluim@gmail.com
Subject: bug#49424: 27.2; Misdocumented default initialisation file
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2021 10:23:57 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83a6mxe0aa.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f9be1672d3a3d7c092febfb073db3ec0@webmail.orcon.net.nz> (message from Phil Sainty on Thu, 08 Jul 2021 13:17:22 +1200)

> Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2021 13:17:22 +1200
> From: Phil Sainty <psainty@orcon.net.nz>
> Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>, 49424@debbugs.gnu.org,
>  Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com>
> 
> On 2021-07-08 05:58, Peter Oliver wrote:
> > If we’re making a change, here, it may be worth going all the way:
> > create $XDG_CONFIG_HOME/emacs if it and ~/.emacs.d don’t exist, and
> > hence use $XDG_CONFIG_HOME/emacs/init.el when creating a new
> > initialisation file.
> 
> I don't agree with doing that.
> 
> The current XDG_CONFIG_HOME behaviour is opt-in, and I think it should
> stay that way, partly so that the default behaviour is consistent across
> systems, but also because I think the suggested behaviour would cause
> widespread confusion from users who run Emacs before creating their
> ~/.emacs.d directory, and then can't figure out why their new config
> isn't working.  (IIRC that is exactly what happened with the original
> XDG_CONFIG_HOME support code before it was adjusted to ensure that it
> was opt-in behaviour, despite the fact that you needed to be running
> a pre-release build of Emacs to be affected and therefore likely to
> have a better understanding of things than the average newcomer.)

I tend to agree with Phil here.  Let's leave this part of Emacs alone
for a release or two, and see how the user community reacts to the
changes we did just recently.  Making changes right now in this
sensitive area could bring more trouble, and what practical problems
are we going to solve?





  reply	other threads:[~2021-07-08  7:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-07-05 22:56 bug#49424: 27.2; Misdocumented default initialisation file Peter Oliver
2021-07-06 15:11 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-07  9:17   ` Robert Pluim
2021-07-07 11:28     ` Rudolf Schlatte
2021-07-07 13:10       ` Robert Pluim
2021-07-07 16:33         ` Rudolf Schlatte
2021-07-07 12:24     ` Phil Sainty
2021-07-07 13:08       ` Robert Pluim
2021-07-07 14:11         ` Stephen Berman
2021-07-07 14:40           ` Robert Pluim
2021-07-07 16:21             ` Stephen Berman
2021-07-08  1:06         ` Phil Sainty
2021-07-07 17:58     ` Peter Oliver
2021-07-08  1:17       ` Phil Sainty
2021-07-08  7:23         ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2021-07-08  8:30           ` Robert Pluim
2021-07-08  9:21             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-07 18:12     ` Peter Oliver
2021-07-07 18:36       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-07 19:08         ` Peter Oliver
2021-07-07 19:27           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-07 21:51             ` Peter Oliver
2021-07-08  6:23               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-08  8:40                 ` Robert Pluim
2021-07-08  9:22                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-08 18:22                     ` Peter Oliver
2021-07-08 19:10                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-24  8:12                 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-24 13:27                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-24 14:10                     ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-24 14:17                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-24 14:47                         ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-24 14:56                         ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-24 15:20                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-24 21:52                             ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-24 14:25                   ` Robert Pluim

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