From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#60886: 29.0.60; split-root-window-below broken for split-window-keep-point Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2023 13:32:25 +0200 Message-ID: <83a62epxo6.fsf@gnu.org> References: <86k01la7gn.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83r0vs0z44.fsf@gnu.org> <61dc9888-cb02-5323-f86f-23bdb19c5893@gmx.at> <865yd33dkf.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <952857f0-ceca-9677-992b-9a1659130a0f@gmx.at> <83zgafyqvj.fsf@gnu.org> <0bc1444b-cb79-43e1-d363-5e40ad317fa0@gmx.at> <83pmbazvnn.fsf@gnu.org> <9703eeaf-42bf-aeb1-c03b-c3c8700aab48@gmx.at> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="28933"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 60886@debbugs.gnu.org, juri@linkov.net To: martin rudalics Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 19 12:33:24 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pITAa-0007GZ-1e for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 12:33:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pITAF-0008Oh-LN; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 06:33:03 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pITAE-0008OP-Tc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 06:33:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pITAE-0004e7-LX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 06:33:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pITAE-0005Fe-4R for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 06:33:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2023 11:33:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 60886 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 60886-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B60886.167412796220155 (code B ref 60886); Thu, 19 Jan 2023 11:33:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 60886) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jan 2023 11:32:42 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42800 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pIT9t-0005F1-MI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 06:32:42 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:33126) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pIT9r-0005En-OS for 60886@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 06:32:40 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pIT9m-0004bQ-6L; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 06:32:34 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=BQMbLn029786YBC8AWfAvpXdFe75rAJcC52zAlgTy5M=; b=aU4ddkaafpdg LSbbIovjxMT4mRZ0dg97lKx1QepOZlvVzPENI+LbwTQujbAaokpFPtl8Yf5c+A9BeNsHeNDCeYoH8 p8YlDiD42YJ6SQH4sBPyzMOB9SKX5oZua+xDecmn9g4Rre/nNDx8nyiHmP4fjAq6MJosiHE4zjDZg eXpqAjh0yeTbjMqcVuRJBSBZq3dpc6m3SHaIKX8VGUCHpzrNIEM9YxaC+xXi6Uooc3w1xSffoysdm 8BOeLVS56AqrjEPQ94fumXHHTej2wNignkqAVXWzYG/CuKvC9KC9pJ26Dva4kKLpQ+OxD/Ye7WGrc fgYPiFWbV4TpwyzfICsVoQ==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pIT9g-0001K1-QT; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 06:32:31 -0500 In-Reply-To: <9703eeaf-42bf-aeb1-c03b-c3c8700aab48@gmx.at> (message from martin rudalics on Thu, 19 Jan 2023 11:43:09 +0100) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:253701 Archived-At: > Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2023 11:43:09 +0100 > Cc: juri@linkov.net, 60886@debbugs.gnu.org > From: martin rudalics > > > I guess I don't understand the use case then? how can that happen? > > With emacs -Q do > > M-: (pop-to-buffer "*Messages*") > C-x w 3 This shows *Messages* in the new window, so I think something like ...the same buffer as the window which was selected when the function was invoked" should be good. > > And what would you suggest to say in the doc string instead? > > Either nothing or what 'split-window' says in that case: That the new > window shows the buffer of the window selected on the frame containing > the window that was split. See above. > Functions like 'split-window-below' were historically intended for > interactive use only. The Elisp manual said about them > > For interactive use, Emacs provides two commands which always split > the selected window. > > which apparently is no longer true. That doesn't say "only for interactive use", and it would make no sense to say that for such a basic function, IMO.