From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#61652: 28.2; Read-only mode and View mode Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2023 15:08:49 +0200 Message-ID: <83a617tbby.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83bklov1ny.fsf@gnu.org> <3C58A00D-8E01-4CC8-BFEA-CCC6CB798B35@t-online.de> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="14733"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 61652@debbugs.gnu.org To: Bernd Rellermeyer Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 21 14:09:35 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pUSOj-0003c2-9n for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2023 14:09:33 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pUSOI-0001Qp-LT; Tue, 21 Feb 2023 08:09:08 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pUSOE-0001Q2-Ls for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2023 08:09:04 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pUSOE-0003g7-CN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2023 08:09:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pUSOE-0003h8-7H for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2023 08:09:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2023 13:09:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 61652 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 61652-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B61652.167698492614172 (code B ref 61652); Tue, 21 Feb 2023 13:09:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 61652) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Feb 2023 13:08:46 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54940 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pUSNy-0003gR-4q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2023 08:08:46 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:47838) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pUSNw-0003g7-I2 for 61652@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2023 08:08:45 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pUSNr-0003bA-0W; Tue, 21 Feb 2023 08:08:39 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=P06NEZFt1pCrI59o4j4Zj9MO8NonkLQx0ccD6YTSU9A=; b=DORmAs336rFF lnq5ME902DTu51ScXBiXeikmIuq2sajnBqfx99TbGPYMccC/HnWlvTLUtvseaEqbE2BGfjAnPaNts jbXYCXc82VT2YVmgdbmX+m2SpTxt5mQHw+s8ExLRte7Fv9dq7KKjsikQnwGqsY9luOH3A0d+cjvH/ q7m9Di6er/lG2v7LxAmG0vRGua3Tzn2olP5CZcmmt/IUCZ45PDyuI/E6iRDzP4mi081mOiQiXlj7t lTvyEJ5E6G2vpEpaL5cQHrLWtfMsipP9s99x+1nikQ6nOPfD4oZdpBFW2yaWIENY1F9nZd5Xg3cZz yaY/bUSy7phQLYiokW1Wmw==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pUSNq-0007iy-6W; Tue, 21 Feb 2023 08:08:38 -0500 In-Reply-To: <3C58A00D-8E01-4CC8-BFEA-CCC6CB798B35@t-online.de> (message from Bernd Rellermeyer on Tue, 21 Feb 2023 13:46:50 +0100) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:256265 Archived-At: > From: Bernd Rellermeyer > Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2023 13:46:50 +0100 > Cc: 61652@debbugs.gnu.org > > In step 3, View mode is entered implicitly, because `view-read-only` is non-nil. From the user perspective it is only one command. I.e. the user just turns off and on Read-only mode. That means the user enters View mode vie Read-Only mode from a writable buffer. I think this should not alter the behavior of `View-exit` and after calling `View-exit` he should be in a writable buffer. Or am I wrong? I'm not sure I agree with your interpretation. Does anyone else have an opinion?