From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#13149: 24.3.50; Emacs thinks file was changed outside Emacs, but it was not Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 09:57:58 +0200 Message-ID: <838v7q7wjd.fsf@gnu.org> References: <6CDE13E3BCAA4AFAAB8BCE105C6ABF12@us.oracle.com> <874njs19zb.fsf@yandex.ru> <50F3935A.2090003@yandex.ru> <50F41CE7.60306@gmail.com> <50F44E6B.8090007@cs.ucla.edu> <50F484CB.6010905@gmail.com> <50F4FB0B.5070003@cs.ucla.edu> <50F5192B.602@yandex.ru> <50F5928A.9010009@cs.ucla.edu> <50F5CC3D.5090802@yandex.ru> <50F5CE65.9030002@cs.ucla.edu> <50F5D3F5.6050604@yandex.ru> <50F5DA58.3020404@cs.ucla.edu> <50F5E1C1.2040301@yandex.ru> <50F5E9DB.1030309@gmail.com> <50F64149.6010704@cs.ucla.edu> <50F7D358.9030100@gmail.com> <50F86E12.3040707@cs.ucla.edu> <50F8D150.8030200@gmail.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1358495908 6133 80.91.229.3 (18 Jan 2013 07:58:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 07:58:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 13149@debbugs.gnu.org, eggert@cs.ucla.edu To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 18 08:58:45 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Tw6qY-0004hO-3Y for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 08:58:42 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57998 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tw6qH-00034U-JQ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 02:58:25 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:58946) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tw6qD-000303-Jb for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 02:58:23 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tw6q9-0003bw-Dk for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 02:58:21 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:60579) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tw6q9-0003bc-As for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 02:58:17 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Tw6qs-0001f4-8A for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 02:59:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 07:59:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 13149 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: unreproducible moreinfo Original-Received: via spool by 13149-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B13149.13584959396377 (code B ref 13149); Fri, 18 Jan 2013 07:59:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 13149) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Jan 2013 07:58:59 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37810 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Tw6qo-0001eo-L8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 02:58:58 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:54011) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Tw6qm-0001ef-8c for 13149@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 02:58:56 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MGT00L00A37GA00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 13149@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 09:57:51 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MGT00LF8A4E8T60@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 09:57:51 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <50F8D150.8030200@gmail.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:69969 Archived-At: > Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 08:36:32 +0400 > From: Dmitry Gutov > CC: 13149@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii > > > So it does seem to be a file system bug. Is this something > > that you can reproduce with a little C program, that > > creates a file, and invoke lstat and stat on it? > > What happens when you run the following program > > in your file system? It should output time stamps > > that are identical. You may need to substitute > > something else (like sleep (10)) for "sync ()" > > to trigger the bug. > > The time stamps were identical in all combinations: A small wonder, since nothing is written to the file in this test proggy, unlike in the original scenario.