From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#13505: Bug#696026: emacs24: file corruption on saving Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 05:49:15 +0200 Message-ID: <838v7np550.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20121215223809.GA7549@xvii.vinc17.org> <877gn8ijgn.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> <83obgjpzod.fsf@gnu.org> <20130120212508.GF2695@xvii.vinc17.org> <83bocjpm81.fsf@gnu.org> <20130120221007.GG2695@xvii.vinc17.org> <20130120222211.GH2695@xvii.vinc17.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1358740211 16474 80.91.229.3 (21 Jan 2013 03:50:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 03:50:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 696026-forwarded@bugs.debian.org, 696026@bugs.debian.org, rlb@defaultvalue.org, 13505@debbugs.gnu.org To: Vincent Lefevre Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 21 04:50:28 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Tx8Ov-0007wn-Px for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 04:50:25 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49746 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tx8Oe-00033Z-Sk for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 22:50:08 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:39891) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tx8Oa-00031H-L7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 22:50:06 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tx8OW-0006DA-Vh for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 22:50:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:36700) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tx8OW-0006D6-SH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 22:50:00 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Tx8PV-0005bl-Qo for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 22:51:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 03:51:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 13505 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 13505-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B13505.135874020621486 (code B ref 13505); Mon, 21 Jan 2013 03:51:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 13505) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Jan 2013 03:50:06 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42164 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Tx8Oc-0005aV-K9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 22:50:06 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:55190) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Tx8OZ-0005aH-Un for 13505@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 22:50:04 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MGY00F00ICT4Q00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 13505@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 05:49:01 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MGY00EVZILOQF50@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 05:49:01 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <20130120222211.GH2695@xvii.vinc17.org> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:70125 Archived-At: > Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 23:22:11 +0100 > From: Vincent Lefevre > Cc: rlb@defaultvalue.org, handa@gnu.org, 13505@debbugs.gnu.org, > 696026-forwarded@bugs.debian.org, 696026@bugs.debian.org > > On 2013-01-20 23:10:08 +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > But Emacs should clearly tell the user what to do after C-x C-s and > > clearly say when there can be data loss. Currently it says: > [...] > > In fact, I fear that this may not be sufficient, because some data > loss silently occurs when visiting the file. Exactly! > If after the decoding, it appears that there are no problematic > characters (is this possible?), the user would be able to save the > file without any message from Emacs. I don't know how to do that within the framework of Emacs handling of non-ASCII text.