From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#16731: 24.3.50; Latin small letter sharp s is not considered lower-case Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 07:29:31 +0200 Message-ID: <838uta9uis.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87wqh08cjw.fsf@loki.jorgenschaefer.de> <57txc4cj1x.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <52FBCC08.50509@easy-emacs.de> <83fvnoru0q.fsf@gnu.org> <52FBD551.2000808@easy-emacs.de> <83bnycrsrb.fsf@gnu.org> <52FBDA9B.102@easy-emacs.de> <83a9dvsmi9.fsf@gnu.org> <83y51fq8fy.fsf@gnu.org> <83r476rjyf.fsf@gnu.org> <8338jmev3m.fsf@gnu.org> <83vbwidaln.fsf@gnu.org> <83zjltblw7.fsf@gnu.org> <83ob28c0ig.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1392615013 557 80.91.229.3 (17 Feb 2014 05:30:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 05:30:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 16731@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 17 06:30:19 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WFGmY-00079C-Vb for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 06:30:19 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37982 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WFGmY-0001hs-FH for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 00:30:18 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54911) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WFGmQ-0001fY-2I for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 00:30:15 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WFGmL-0001PG-8a for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 00:30:10 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:54388) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WFGmL-0001OS-6Q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 00:30:05 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WFGmK-00059k-27 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 00:30:04 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 05:30:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16731 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 16731-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16731.139261497619762 (code B ref 16731); Mon, 17 Feb 2014 05:30:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 16731) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Feb 2014 05:29:36 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55570 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WFGlr-00058g-VC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 00:29:36 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout24.012.net.il ([80.179.55.180]:36621) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WFGlp-00058O-CH for 16731@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 00:29:34 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout24.012.net.il by mtaout24.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0N1400700K4SOQ00@mtaout24.012.net.il> for 16731@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 07:28:18 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout24.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0N14006EYKJ6B330@mtaout24.012.net.il>; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 07:28:18 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:85713 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Cc: andreas.roehler@easy-emacs.de, 16731@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 22:09:32 -0500 > > > How could they? these variables are not exposed to Lisp. Only > > ascii-case-table is, which is not the one I had in mind. > > Right, I was thinking of standard-case-table. Still, same problem: take > that standard case table change it a bit, and suddenly other chars than > the ones you changed are affected. But customizing case-tables is already a very special use case. Why can't we expect such users to deal with these issues? The only alternative (besides leaving the original problem unsolved) is to ignore buffer-local case tables. Is this more acceptable?