From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#26126: 26.0.50; file-notify-rm-watch removes arbitrary watches Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2017 17:37:46 +0200 Message-ID: <838tnywshh.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87r31x9ulw.fsf@luca> <87shmcney8.fsf@detlef> <87efxw7xvc.fsf@luca> <87mvcjophx.fsf@detlef> <87tw6rssoi.fsf@luca> <87pohfkmvh.fsf@detlef> <87lgs2sobr.fsf@luca> <87y3w2gywc.fsf@detlef> <878to21fty.fsf@luca> <87wpbl1u80.fsf@detlef> <87d1ddecx2.fsf@luca> <87efxtnk8m.fsf@detlef> <87tw6nd6nf.fsf@luca> <871strm323.fsf@detlef> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1490110754 31779 195.159.176.226 (21 Mar 2017 15:39:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2017 15:39:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 26126@debbugs.gnu.org, politza@hochschule-trier.de To: Michael Albinus Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 21 16:39:10 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cqLsL-0007tA-RY for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 21 Mar 2017 16:39:09 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40927 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cqLsR-0004xc-Ra for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 21 Mar 2017 11:39:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33329) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cqLsJ-0004wg-SS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Mar 2017 11:39:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cqLsE-0004N0-Ne for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Mar 2017 11:39:07 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:39932) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cqLsE-0004Mu-K8 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Mar 2017 11:39:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cqLsE-0007Ex-EN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Mar 2017 11:39:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2017 15:39:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 26126 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 26126-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B26126.149011068827770 (code B ref 26126); Tue, 21 Mar 2017 15:39:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 26126) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Mar 2017 15:38:08 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38131 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cqLrL-0007Dq-W4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 21 Mar 2017 11:38:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:41577) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cqLrK-0007DJ-Uy for 26126@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 21 Mar 2017 11:38:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cqLrC-0003zF-UG for 26126@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 21 Mar 2017 11:38:01 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:55899) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cqLrC-0003zB-Qo; Tue, 21 Mar 2017 11:37:58 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:2371 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cqLrC-0002Fl-41; Tue, 21 Mar 2017 11:37:58 -0400 In-reply-to: <871strm323.fsf@detlef> (message from Michael Albinus on Tue, 21 Mar 2017 09:44:52 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:130783 Archived-At: > From: Michael Albinus > Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2017 09:44:52 +0100 > Cc: 26126@debbugs.gnu.org > > Andreas Politz writes: > > >>> Sure, the back-ends mostly watch directories, except for kqueue. But is > >>> this behavior also intended to be propagated to the clients of > >>> filenotify.el ? > >> > >> Yes. > > > > Why is that ? > > We've discussed this a while ago, main reason (IIRC) was to achieve > same behaviour for the different libraries. That discussion was about local notifications, where indeed the situation is like you describe. But Andreas asks about calling remote handlers, about which we by definition know much less. In that context, it might indeed make sense to pass the file, not its parent directory, because the handler can easily reconstruct the parent directory if that's what it needs. By contrast, there's no way for the handler to intuit the file which was stripped. WDYT?