From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#8517: Can't handle utf8 encoded filenames in locale 'de_DE.utf8' Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2019 17:09:46 +0300 Message-ID: <838srlcmvp.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87oc442zpp.fsf@raven.defaultvalue.org> <874l2axmnz.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="64273"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: 8517@debbugs.gnu.org, 611396-forwarded@bugs.debian.org, rlb@defaultvalue.org, gernotk@gmail.com To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 22 16:10:19 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1i0nn9-000GcM-6l for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 22 Aug 2019 16:10:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43618 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1i0nn7-000465-H5 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 22 Aug 2019 10:10:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:51638) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1i0nmt-00041Z-Pf for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Aug 2019 10:10:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1i0nms-0000k8-J4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Aug 2019 10:10:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:57443) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1i0nms-0000jv-ER for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Aug 2019 10:10:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i0nms-0007xx-5Y for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Aug 2019 10:10:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2019 14:10:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 8517 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug Original-Received: via spool by 8517-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B8517.156648298630592 (code B ref 8517); Thu, 22 Aug 2019 14:10:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 8517) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Aug 2019 14:09:46 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38031 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i0nmc-0007xL-0L for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Aug 2019 10:09:46 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:43041) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i0nma-0007x9-4H for 8517@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Aug 2019 10:09:44 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:40582) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1i0nmU-0000Uf-KX; Thu, 22 Aug 2019 10:09:38 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1400 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1i0nmU-0005XC-1b; Thu, 22 Aug 2019 10:09:38 -0400 In-reply-to: <874l2axmnz.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Wed, 21 Aug 2019 13:56:32 -0700) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:165575 Archived-At: > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2019 13:56:32 -0700 > Cc: 8517@debbugs.gnu.org, 611396-forwarded@bugs.debian.org, > Gernot Kieseritzky > > ("German" > (documentation . "This language environment is almost the same as Latin-1,\nbut sets the default input method to \"german-postfix\".\nAdditionally, it selects the German tutorial.") > (sample-text . "German (Deutsch Nord) Guten Tag\nGerman (Deutsch Süd) Grüß Gott") > (unibyte-display . iso-latin-1) > (input-method . "german-postfix") > (nonascii-translation . iso-8859-1) > (coding-priority iso-latin-1) > (coding-system iso-latin-1 iso-latin-9) > (charset iso-8859-1) > (tutorial . "TUTORIAL.de")) > > So while it may be surprising in this day and age that that's what this > does, I don't think the definition can be changed (because that'd break > the setup of people who rely on "German" to be iso-8859-1). Not sure why this is even important. By default, Emacs takes the codeset part (i.e. the encoding it prefers) from the locale. the above is only important if someone sets the language environment by hand. Am I right?