From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#23171: 25.0.92; Key binding conventions for all modifiers Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2020 18:07:19 +0200 Message-ID: <838slup5fs.fsf@gnu.org> References: <831t6qv492.fsf@gnu.org> <87y2wrt1gl.fsf@marxist.se> <83h83ecyca.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="49985"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 23171@debbugs.gnu.org, stefan@marxist.se To: Philipp Stephani Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 26 17:08:12 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ivkSJ-000Cxv-Rj for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 26 Jan 2020 17:08:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34862 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ivkSI-00035e-V9 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 26 Jan 2020 11:08:10 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57400) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ivkSA-00035M-SC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Jan 2020 11:08:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ivkS9-0000zd-W6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Jan 2020 11:08:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:51336) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ivkS9-0000zV-TR for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Jan 2020 11:08:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ivkS9-0005Zd-Nh for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Jan 2020 11:08:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2020 16:08:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 23171 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo notabug wontfix Original-Received: via spool by 23171-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B23171.158005485821393 (code B ref 23171); Sun, 26 Jan 2020 16:08:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 23171) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Jan 2020 16:07:38 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57309 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ivkRl-0005Yz-Pu for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 26 Jan 2020 11:07:37 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:48231) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ivkRk-0005Ym-AI for 23171@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 26 Jan 2020 11:07:36 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:47177) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ivkRf-0008Ff-06; Sun, 26 Jan 2020 11:07:31 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3166 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ivkRd-000598-VP; Sun, 26 Jan 2020 11:07:30 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from Philipp Stephani on Sun, 26 Jan 2020 15:36:08 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:175305 Archived-At: > From: Philipp Stephani > Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2020 15:36:08 +0100 > Cc: Stefan Kangas , 23171@debbugs.gnu.org > > > FWIW, I don't see any need for any further specifications. The manual > > says what keys to reserve; all those which aren't mentioned, including > > with modifiers, aren't reserved. > > What does it mean for a key sequence to be unreserved? Anybody can use > it for any purpose? Yes, AFAIU. > If so, how do we prevent clashes between these unreserved sequences? We don't. It's up to the authors of the various packages to make sure they don't step on keybindings of any other packages, except if those other packages can never be used with this package. What else can we do?