From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#43572: Feature request: make it possible to choose whether the first lines of the minibuffer should be displayed instead of the last ones Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2020 09:59:36 +0300 Message-ID: <838scytk87.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83h7rov7xy.fsf@gnu.org> <837dskuvx3.fsf@gnu.org> <833637uubc.fsf@gnu.org> <83mu1ftdkb.fsf@gnu.org> <83imc3tach.fsf@gnu.org> <83eemrt8da.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="38457"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 43572@debbugs.gnu.org To: Gregory Heytings Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 25 09:00:27 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kLhiV-0009uW-2f for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 25 Sep 2020 09:00:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49480 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kLhiU-000345-4Z for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 25 Sep 2020 03:00:26 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55202) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kLhi6-00032V-RQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Sep 2020 03:00:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:59085) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kLhi5-0000AS-Vu for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Sep 2020 03:00:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kLhi5-00031P-Tp for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Sep 2020 03:00:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2020 07:00:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 43572 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 43572-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B43572.160101717611557 (code B ref 43572); Fri, 25 Sep 2020 07:00:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 43572) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Sep 2020 06:59:36 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42398 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kLhhf-00030L-K1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Sep 2020 02:59:35 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:48280) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kLhhc-000304-KU for 43572@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Sep 2020 02:59:34 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:48561) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kLhhV-00008K-QP; Fri, 25 Sep 2020 02:59:25 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3540 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kLhhV-0003Nb-EC; Fri, 25 Sep 2020 02:59:25 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Gregory Heytings on Thu, 24 Sep 2020 21:51:43 +0000) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:188926 Archived-At: > Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2020 21:51:43 +0000 > From: Gregory Heytings > cc: 43572@debbugs.gnu.org > > >> I can't believe this, in particular given that the default value of > >> enable-recursive-minibuffers is nil. > > > > You again are thinking only about uses of mini-window for editing in the > > minibuffer. But that is not the only use of the mini-window. > > I'm not sure I understand what you mean, but it seems to me that these > other uses of the mini-window are not at all affected by the proposed > patch, given that `start-display-at-beginning-of-minibuffer' is reset > immediately when read_minibuf() / read-from-minibuffer has ended. I remind you the fact that read_minibuf enters recursive-edit, during which any of the other callers of resize_mini_window can be called. > > And even in its use for the minibuffer, many users enable recursive > > minibuffers. I would not be surprised if some specialized modes and > > packages enabled it for their operations. > > If this case is important, the attached corrected patch also disables > setting `start-display-at-beginning-of-minibuffer' in recursive > minibuffers, that is, it limits the effect of that variable to > non-recursive minibuffers. That's a limitation I'd prefer not to impose. It also doesn't affect the other callers of resize_mini_window. > I'll wait until you and Stefan agree on the way to solve that problem in a > better way to start working on this. In his last mail he is apparently > not sure anymore that using text properties to do this, as he suggested > yesterday, is the best solution. Yes, I'm still unsure why Stefan said that, and am waiting for his elaborations.