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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: larsi@gnus.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, 24237-done@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#24237: 24.5; (elisp)`Extended Menu Items', :filter warning
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2020 21:17:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <838s9ttxkk.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d15a8746-eb78-44b5-a4d6-af2285969b76@default> (message from Drew Adams on Sat, 19 Dec 2020 10:54:06 -0800 (PST))

> Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2020 10:54:06 -0800 (PST)
> From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
> Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 24237@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca
> 
> > > > >  "use of a `menu-item' construct with a :filter
> > > > >   to create a conditional _keyboard_ key binding.
> > > > >   In such a case, the `menu-item' construct is not
> > > > >   a real menu item - it is not placed on any menu."
> > 
> > If this is never placed on the menu bar or on any pop-down menu, then
> > what the manual says is not relevant, because redisplay only considers
> > the menus that need to be displayed.
> 
> 1. The manual's description of :filter is entirely
> relevant to this use case - _except_ for that last
> paragraph, which apparently erroneously assumes that
> the only possible use of an extended menu item with
> :filter is in a menu.

Since that last paragraph explicitly talks about displaying or acting
on menus, I see no reason to change anything there.

>    a. You can bind an extended menu item that uses
>       :filter to a keyboard key, to give it a
>       dynamic binding (explaining what that means
>       with an example).

IMO this is a kludge that we don't need to document.

> More generally, `menu-item' is not just about menus
> and menu items.  This is not obvious.  And in
> particular, it's not obvious that you can make good
> use of :filter with a keyboard key.

menu-item is about menus, as its name says.  That it can be used for
other purposes is an implementation detail.

And with that, I'm closing this bug report.





  reply	other threads:[~2020-12-19 19:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2020-12-19 18:54               ` bug#24237: 24.5; (elisp)`Extended Menu Items', :filter warning Drew Adams
2020-12-19 19:17                 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
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     [not found]                 ` <<838s9ttxkk.fsf@gnu.org>
2020-12-19 19:35                   ` Drew Adams
2020-12-20  0:05                     ` Stefan Kangas
2020-12-20  1:23                       ` Drew Adams
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     [not found]     ` <<<83blexeod5.fsf@gnu.org>
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     [not found]         ` <<83v9d5d1yd.fsf@gnu.org>
2020-12-13 19:52           ` Drew Adams
2020-12-19 10:47             ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found] <<6c4f5089-43fa-4ca1-a656-1ec1684df960@default>
     [not found] ` <<87v9d67ox6.fsf@gnus.org>
     [not found]   ` <<70cc884d-4f32-4a2e-b3f5-181709f2ca29@default>
     [not found]     ` <<83blexeod5.fsf@gnu.org>
2020-12-13 17:24       ` Drew Adams
2020-12-13 17:56         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-08-15 18:06 Drew Adams
2020-12-12 20:24 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-12-12 20:45   ` Drew Adams
2020-12-13 15:07     ` Eli Zaretskii

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