From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#46469: 27.1; `isearch-del-char' should move point further back Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2021 10:59:24 +0200 Message-ID: <838s7se42b.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87zh09xggr.fsf@gmail.com> <83v9axdpkm.fsf@gnu.org> <87mtw9xckr.fsf@gmail.com> <83r1lke9dc.fsf@gnu.org> <87im6wxw11.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="38541"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 46469@debbugs.gnu.org To: Augusto Stoffel Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Feb 13 10:00:10 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lAqmg-0009wH-MG for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 13 Feb 2021 10:00:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47894 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lAqmf-0002wb-6z for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 13 Feb 2021 04:00:09 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:35646) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lAqmY-0002wH-HO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Feb 2021 04:00:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:50226) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lAqmY-0007zW-AA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Feb 2021 04:00:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lAqmY-0003yY-8r for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Feb 2021 04:00:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2021 09:00:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 46469 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 46469-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B46469.161320677715219 (code B ref 46469); Sat, 13 Feb 2021 09:00:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 46469) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Feb 2021 08:59:37 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33539 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lAqm8-0003xP-WA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 13 Feb 2021 03:59:37 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:45962) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lAqm4-0003x5-Ua for 46469@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 13 Feb 2021 03:59:36 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:45475) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lAqlz-0007he-MI; Sat, 13 Feb 2021 03:59:27 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:1723 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1lAqlx-0005Ri-N8; Sat, 13 Feb 2021 03:59:26 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87im6wxw11.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Augusto Stoffel on Sat, 13 Feb 2021 08:32:42 +0100) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:199905 Archived-At: > From: Augusto Stoffel > Cc: 46469@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2021 08:32:42 +0100 > > On Sat, 13 Feb 2021 at 09:04, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > For isearch-del-char, I think what you see is the intended behavior: > > that command doesn't undo the effect of the last character you type at > > the I-search prompt, it just removes the last character of the search > > string. So it isn't supposed to move point back to where the search > > started. What you wanted to happen is what isearch-delete-char does. > > > > OK? > > No, isearch-delete-char is a misnamed command. I could agree with that, but it's a tangent. > It undoes the last isearch command, which is typically inserting a > character OR going to the next/previous match. If you type ‘C-s y > C-s DEL’ in emacs -q, the search string is still y. That's true; you need to type DEL twice to actually remove the last character. But that's how that command was supposed to work, and it does make sense to me, at least. > I frankly think DEL should be isearch-del-char by default. I never got > used to isearch-delete-char in many years before finding out about > isearch-del-char. But that's besides the point. > > As to why the patched version of isearch-delete-char is the "expected" > or more useful one: this is to a degree a matter of taste, but I can > give my reasons if you are still not convinced. If we are talking about personal preferences, then I suggest to make your desired behavior an opt-in one by introducing a defcustom. We cannot change the behavior of isearch-del-char unconditionally if the existing behavior is not a bug, but just something some users may not like. Thanks.