From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#36649: 27.0.50; pure space and pdumper Date: Wed, 12 May 2021 20:42:49 +0300 Message-ID: <838s4j3l2e.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87a6yo5fgy.fsf@gnus.org> <83d03kaz6f.fsf@gnu.org> <87h7svc87d.fsf@igel.home> <87sg5bt1bp.fsf@gmail.com> <4c1248b8-88cc-ca06-6bc8-9f0bb9a98c98@cs.ucla.edu> <87mtt0hupl.fsf@gnus.org> <83mtt02dyz.fsf@gnu.org> <877dk3hoko.fsf@gnus.org> <87y2cjg9mu.fsf@gnus.org> <83a6oz3lpm.fsf@gnu.org> <87lf8jg8o2.fsf@gnus.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="10421"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: eggert@cs.ucla.edu, rpluim@gmail.com, stefan@marxist.se, schwab@linux-m68k.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, pipcet@gmail.com, 36649@debbugs.gnu.org, akrl@sdf.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed May 12 19:49:44 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lgszQ-0002Z8-74 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 12 May 2021 19:49:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53438 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lgszO-0006R5-PN for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 12 May 2021 13:49:43 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37174) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lgst0-00026Q-0z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 May 2021 13:43:06 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:57145) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lgssz-0006O6-KR for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 May 2021 13:43:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lgssz-00053J-IJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 May 2021 13:43:05 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 12 May 2021 17:43:05 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 36649 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 36649-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B36649.162084138319385 (code B ref 36649); Wed, 12 May 2021 17:43:05 +0000 Original-Received: (at 36649) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 May 2021 17:43:03 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40450 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lgssr-000521-4G for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 May 2021 13:43:03 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:54878) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lgsso-00051o-9z for 36649@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 May 2021 13:42:55 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:38980) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lgssf-000693-OX; Wed, 12 May 2021 13:42:45 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:1151 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lgssf-0006HK-74; Wed, 12 May 2021 13:42:45 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87lf8jg8o2.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Wed, 12 May 2021 19:32:13 +0200) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:206369 Archived-At: > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, pipcet@gmail.com, eggert@cs.ucla.edu, > rpluim@gmail.com, schwab@linux-m68k.org, stefan@marxist.se, > 36649@debbugs.gnu.org, akrl@sdf.org > Date: Wed, 12 May 2021 19:32:13 +0200 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > Keeping unexec doesn't mean breaking it . If we believe someone might > > need that configuration, then we should give them a full-fledged > > Emacs, not a crippled one. > > How crippled are we talking? As in "less efficient". > > The patch can easily be tweaked to make the changes conditioned by > > HAVE_PDUMPER, so I believe there's no need to argue about this nit: > > let's simply remove purespace from the pdumper builds, and leave it > > alone in the unexec builds. > > That would be a whole lot of #ifs in the code, and wouldn't make the > change worth it -- in that case, I'd rather wait until we get rid of > unexec before getting rid of pure space. I don't think it will be so ugly as being prohibitive: we already have quite a few of "#if HAVE_PDUMPER" in the sources. But if you prefer to wait with purespace removal until after unexec is removed, I don't mind too much: Emacs 28 will have quite a lot of important changes even without that.