From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#49631: 28.0.50; dired-hide-details-mode Probably introduced at or before Emacs version 24.4 Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2021 14:59:45 +0300 Message-ID: <838s227bv2.fsf@gnu.org> References: Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="31836"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 49631@debbugs.gnu.org To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 19 14:03:47 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1m5Rzv-00084e-8O for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 19 Jul 2021 14:03:47 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39200 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m5Rzu-0007xy-4O for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 19 Jul 2021 08:03:46 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:60386) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m5RxG-00048N-DN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jul 2021 08:01:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:46657) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m5RxG-0002zH-3J for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jul 2021 08:01:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m5RxF-00016N-VS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jul 2021 08:01:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2021 12:01:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 49631 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 49631-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B49631.16266960074132 (code B ref 49631); Mon, 19 Jul 2021 12:01:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 49631) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jul 2021 12:00:07 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58197 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m5RwM-00014H-Ij for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jul 2021 08:00:06 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:33960) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m5RwK-00012W-QG for 49631@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jul 2021 08:00:05 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:37560) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m5RwF-0002AX-FT for 49631@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jul 2021 07:59:59 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:3714 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m5Rw5-00067D-Hr; Mon, 19 Jul 2021 07:59:51 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Richard Stallman on Sun, 18 Jul 2021 20:08:29 -0400) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:210238 Archived-At: > From: Richard Stallman > Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2021 20:08:29 -0400 > > > C-h f dired-hide-details-mode says > > Probably introduced at or before Emacs version 24.4. > > Why doesn't it _know_ precisely which versiob that function was > introduced in? It was only a few versions ago, so this was not > something lost in prehistory. What causes the uncertainty? The feature works by searching the etc/NEWS* files, and finding a symbol there doesn't necessarily mean the Emacs release in which it's mentioned is the actual release where the symbol was introduced. For example, we sometimes forget to announce features and only do that later. Thus the uncertainty and the cautious language.