From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#13814: 24.3.50; Dynamic variables shadowing prevent defvar Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 19:03:31 +0300 Message-ID: <838s0pv7e4.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87hal0199m.fsf@orion.kollektiv-hamburg.de> <87y28tt0q1.fsf@gnus.org> <87wno9lrfu.fsf@gnus.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="3310"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 13814@debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@gnus.org, forcer@forcix.cx To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 25 18:04:10 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mIvNq-0000ay-5z for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 25 Aug 2021 18:04:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60596 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mIvNp-0005iY-2S for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 25 Aug 2021 12:04:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34948) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mIvNi-0005iP-LA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Aug 2021 12:04:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:35852) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mIvNi-0005V9-D7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Aug 2021 12:04:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mIvNi-0003mw-7U for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Aug 2021 12:04:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 16:04:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 13814 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo confirmed Original-Received: via spool by 13814-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B13814.162990742514539 (code B ref 13814); Wed, 25 Aug 2021 16:04:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 13814) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Aug 2021 16:03:45 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47398 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mIvNR-0003mQ-6S for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Aug 2021 12:03:45 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:46978) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mIvNP-0003mC-5f for 13814@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Aug 2021 12:03:44 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:52210) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mIvNI-0005E2-MA; Wed, 25 Aug 2021 12:03:36 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:2766 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mIvNI-0000GT-3Q; Wed, 25 Aug 2021 12:03:36 -0400 In-Reply-To: (bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:212651 Archived-At: > Cc: 13814@debbugs.gnu.org, Jorgen Schaefer > Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 10:41:09 -0400 > From: Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, > the Swiss army knife of text editors" > > > That's being defeatist -- surely theory implies that time travel should > > be available any day now... > > I heard it was available in early versions of Emacs, Emacs supports that since eons ago: see Antinews in the manual.