From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#51876: 28.0.60; Confusing prompt for setting a bookmark Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2021 20:34:35 +0200 Message-ID: <838rxp2rpg.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="19435"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: 51876@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 15 19:35:16 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mmgp2-0004mg-A3 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 15 Nov 2021 19:35:16 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40440 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mmgp0-0003nF-Op for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 15 Nov 2021 13:35:14 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:57848) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mmgoo-0003mz-Hs for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Nov 2021 13:35:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:44606) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mmgoo-0004sx-9E for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Nov 2021 13:35:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mmgoo-0005K1-6k for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Nov 2021 13:35:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2021 18:35:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 51876 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.163700129620440 (code B ref -1); Mon, 15 Nov 2021 18:35:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Nov 2021 18:34:56 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56152 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mmgoa-0005JR-3o for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 15 Nov 2021 13:34:56 -0500 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:42092) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mmgoY-0005JK-Si for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 15 Nov 2021 13:34:47 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:57798) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mmgoY-0003l6-LE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Nov 2021 13:34:46 -0500 Original-Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=44902 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mmgoY-0004qm-Cq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Nov 2021 13:34:46 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Subject:To:From:Date:mime-version:in-reply-to: references; bh=fnesfgBxixcBk9lcCICoeVS43r3/56FrARwRIxhnUEc=; b=f/o+fFsBlH/KXD +vEZtphPiGjZoFjpomZT5kNQ2TgDI+4fgXtBUcSEGpUPSCrwuxSyO6PqBBi8acE0rBK0eq3lPmyzM 4p1DOUxcvglZhi8rcSmRdwpV2WAcIT8pcrJz3A6ONpSJly01Hg19DqeStb84tDsBv+YTdniV+FLHw S0L13cHO7BqIAhusEh0ZLVnmJKKUBSNvT3Z1P5mQyqLNyCzjff94G2TOWTyU1hz5TsOHmwa00IWju 5IoOAmCu1O5oqnNAp89i8O5hVjaTZEW1Dyk9I4SfSCbkHQv5AcPu587Xx70ynwMcqJdxOOexxX2n0 hxbWvR6NNKg2mWysKHaw==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=3754 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mmgoX-0006KF-Vw for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Nov 2021 13:34:46 -0500 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:220076 Archived-At: To reproduce: emacs -Q C-x C-f some-file-name RET C-x r m Emacs prompts thusly: Set bookmark unconditionally (default some-file-name): This prompt is confusing: it doesn't make it clear that Emacs is prompting for the _name_ of the bookmark. The word "name" (or anything to that effect) doesn't appear anywhere within the prompt, and the suggested default, which is just the file name, makes the intent even harder to guess, because it sounds like Emacs asks whether to set a bookmark in this file. Please make the prompt more user-friendly. I also think the "unconditionally" part should be removed: it makes me wonder why Emacs made a point of mentioning that at all. It also makes the prompt longer, thus harder to understand. In GNU Emacs 28.0.60 (build 140, i686-pc-mingw32) of 2021-11-15 built on HOME-C4E4A596F7 Repository revision: b418aad85a3d62aa427e7af72c96ca1d644dbc02 Repository branch: emacs-28 Windowing system distributor 'Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 System Description: Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 3 (v5.1.0.2600) Configured using: 'configure -C --prefix=/d/usr --with-wide-int --with-modules --enable-checking=yes,glyphs 'CFLAGS=-O0 -gdwarf-4 -g3'' Configured features: ACL GIF GMP GNUTLS HARFBUZZ JPEG JSON LCMS2 LIBXML2 MODULES NOTIFY W32NOTIFY PDUMPER PNG RSVG SOUND THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS XPM ZLIB Important settings: value of $LANG: ENU locale-coding-system: cp1255 Major mode: Lisp Interaction Minor modes in effect: tooltip-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t eldoc-mode: t show-paren-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t indent-tabs-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Load-path shadows: None found. Features: (shadow sort mail-extr emacsbug message rmc puny dired dired-loaddefs rfc822 mml mml-sec epa derived epg rfc6068 epg-config gnus-util rmail rmail-loaddefs auth-source cl-seq eieio eieio-core cl-macs eieio-loaddefs password-cache json map text-property-search time-date subr-x seq byte-opt gv bytecomp byte-compile cconv mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader cl-loaddefs cl-lib sendmail rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums mm-util mail-prsvr mail-utils iso-transl tooltip eldoc paren electric uniquify ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type elisp-mode mwheel dos-w32 ls-lisp disp-table term/w32-win w32-win w32-vars term/common-win tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list replace newcomment text-mode lisp-mode prog-mode register page tab-bar menu-bar rfn-eshadow isearch easymenu timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax font-core term/tty-colors frame minibuffer cl-generic cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese eucjp-ms cp51932 hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese composite emoji-zwj charscript charprop case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev obarray cl-preloaded nadvice button loaddefs faces cus-face macroexp files window text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote threads w32notify w32 lcms2 multi-tty make-network-process emacs) Memory information: ((conses 16 56698 6812) (symbols 48 7801 1) (strings 16 21653 2791) (string-bytes 1 632658) (vectors 16 13628) (vector-slots 8 180022 11936) (floats 8 23 93) (intervals 40 266 116) (buffers 888 10)) Set bookmark unconditionally (default bookmark-test.txt):