From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#53196: 28.0.90; Default Emacs is too noisy Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 05:23:14 +0200 Message-ID: <838rvl7i3h.fsf@gnu.org> References: <874k6a9g8j.fsf@moondust.localdomain> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="16608"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 53196@debbugs.gnu.org To: "N. Jackson" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 12 04:24:11 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n7UF9-00048M-8L for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 04:24:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37764 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n7UF7-0006xr-JL for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 11 Jan 2022 22:24:09 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:59156) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n7UF0-0006v9-EI for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Jan 2022 22:24:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:34811) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n7UF0-0002Gb-3g for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Jan 2022 22:24:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n7UEz-0006ZQ-PV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Jan 2022 22:24:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 03:24:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 53196 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 53196-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B53196.164195780725180 (code B ref 53196); Wed, 12 Jan 2022 03:24:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 53196) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Jan 2022 03:23:27 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55947 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n7UER-0006Y3-EY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Jan 2022 22:23:27 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:58300) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n7UEQ-0006Xn-1A for 53196@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Jan 2022 22:23:26 -0500 Original-Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=37874 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n7UEJ-0002D0-AU; Tue, 11 Jan 2022 22:23:20 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=bI6O++npsNyArLLBfd0/d2KjHCs35s0BMHTFbzjH7q0=; b=jMdWfFwZRktV FRiEOL6/Uwp8WFIjQUFaJXxSMFvQkpsQKt0aad0xzWLcoBYYKl3x/cYJcxHCalOcn23dCkNXDP+rR 5UAPsI+9u0sq3Mft7mCjHQc9PBq5YSiLHvLGL1TFS+E0iBE6pbdGZSivIj7YfhZ0YBtkLRaO5uBUo E3qaQUEHxlUgPBj9NJNjWzhgee+MrV4dhhcdWTNSO1NoqkQ/2PhL4/SnJDQZWuRIlshLjANV+3YsO Z1sMDK9TPpR+6vvvAKLwnovJyXGJ3f+iJOd2G4DerSLBAPvDvOGyv2+t/gSz8CcP7YAsNGMPB+G+5 VltzPBAvgp0cY2txmPXX6w==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=2648 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n7UEJ-0000yw-CN; Tue, 11 Jan 2022 22:23:19 -0500 In-Reply-To: <874k6a9g8j.fsf@moondust.localdomain> (nljlistbox2@gmail.com) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:223978 Archived-At: > From: "N. Jackson" > Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 15:20:28 -0500 > > I ran emacs -Q today (to confirm a bug) and I was driven to > distraction by all the beeping. [My Emacs is mercifully silent, > presumably(?) because I have `visible-bell' turned on, so I'm not > used to all the noise.] On this system the beep sounds like a drop > of water falling into a pool and it is very loud (even though I keep > my volume level set quite low). Just a few minutes in emacs -Q was a > torture. What caused the beeps? It isn't supposed to be too frequent, unless you bump into errors all the time. > One simple improvement would be to not sound a beep when the user > presses `C-g'. That would reduce the amount of noise very greatly. C-g is a kind of interrupt, ringing the bell is justified when the user interrupts whatever Emacs is doing.