From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#36649: 27.0.50; pure space and pdumper Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2022 12:22:05 +0300 Message-ID: <838rpbdg3m.fsf@gnu.org> References: <834k00es7e.fsf@gnu.org> <83zghsd7n6.fsf@gnu.org> <83a69rdgt9.fsf@gnu.org> <87a69r50yy.fsf@gnus.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="6143"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, 36649@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, pipcet@gmail.com To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 02 11:23:23 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1o7ZLW-0001T1-L8 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 02 Jul 2022 11:23:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47958 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o7ZLV-0008UL-56 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 02 Jul 2022 05:23:21 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33296) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o7ZLI-0008Tx-56 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Jul 2022 05:23:08 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:45880) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o7ZLC-0008CG-JZ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Jul 2022 05:23:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1o7ZLC-0001oP-AS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Jul 2022 05:23:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2022 09:23:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 36649 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 36649-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B36649.16567537426894 (code B ref 36649); Sat, 02 Jul 2022 09:23:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 36649) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Jul 2022 09:22:22 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39776 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1o7ZKX-0001n8-O1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Jul 2022 05:22:21 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:48172) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1o7ZKV-0001mu-AR for 36649@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Jul 2022 05:22:19 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:46344) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o7ZKO-0007L7-OF; Sat, 02 Jul 2022 05:22:13 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=MiD6WLa6PFul2yF6L4BjAW7SgjWzxzrnylGsRHm4XvI=; b=TbVmEiIC7YvC pijq9dzn1Xh4NYDsLA6TjvN9v82it75klNo5TuN2adkwc939tCPRnIX9A1YSlsPz8KE1LZUMmuCSZ M6nHmy+pkQXuRCexHk1tkdF/V1Y6dBQkMYqX7O6MawOE5bZ1b+nAirY5phiPILpuB7qd6a+Y32PVv FbwvYjoKfW7Uql2wqovPrrB0t6Aa5dKcqCQ3o5RPn8BFjEIZtNLFfybKoga1KoWrtiVAzF9AAB/cX Zd32kUO0fgAeeHYYWPKiaWi0GatEkfMZPstxKYpgY3FtUVJjLvLalfHQWJC5eZjDy3mEf4qwAIkDs fr8a7Ya+G/Mp6v7+Jthr/A==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=4601 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o7ZKO-00022w-35; Sat, 02 Jul 2022 05:22:12 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87a69r50yy.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Sat, 02 Jul 2022 11:16:05 +0200) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:235867 Archived-At: > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Cc: Pip Cet , 36649@debbugs.gnu.org, > monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, Po Lu > Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2022 11:16:05 +0200 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > Basically, I don't want us to drop the pure space in the unexec > > builds, whether it makes sense to the rest of you or not. > > Could you explain why? Because I don't want to invest any significant effort in maintaining the unexec build. It should remain as close to its original shape as possible, until it's gone. > > So there are two alternatives: either drop pure space only for the > > pdumper build, or wait for us to remove the unexec support and drop > > pure space then. > > If I understand correctly, dropping pure space would make Po's work on > improving the garbage collector easier -- and improving gc is important, > so it seems to make sense to get rid of pure space just for that reason. He said he already dropped that in the branch where he works, so that is AFAIU a moot point. (And if he didn't drop it already, he can drop it now in that branch.) > But I'm not against dropping unexec now, too -- we can drop both unexec > and pure space now. Not yet, we don't have enough experience without it.