From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#58634: Long delay with blank screen whilst loading desktop at emacs startup Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2022 14:28:09 +0300 Message-ID: <838rl9wh4m.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83edv3zud8.fsf@gnu.org> <837d0vyssv.fsf@gnu.org> <83czamy76j.fsf@gnu.org> <83zgdqwjca.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="31578"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 58634@debbugs.gnu.org To: Alan Mackenzie , Juri Linkov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 21 13:36:50 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1olqKX-000833-TP for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2022 13:36:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1olqKW-0006XS-MS for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2022 07:36:48 -0400 Original-Received: from [::1] (helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1olqDc-0001gu-4t for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2022 07:29:40 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1olqD4-0001bq-Tu for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2022 07:29:12 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1olqD0-00064z-Sx for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2022 07:29:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1olqD0-0006Ni-EJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2022 07:29:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2022 11:29:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 58634 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 58634-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B58634.166635170024476 (code B ref 58634); Fri, 21 Oct 2022 11:29:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 58634) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Oct 2022 11:28:20 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37176 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1olqCK-0006Mi-3p for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2022 07:28:20 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:42058) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1olqCI-0006MV-5d for 58634@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2022 07:28:18 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1olqCC-0005w8-EJ; Fri, 21 Oct 2022 07:28:12 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=P7J2k4vUVwF7/oRxySfU5wD/aMm0qaXZ1dK3x/sC0tY=; b=SKlVppuPnHuC RsGQFy3A0zEsvmMmji0muxFshqBMpNE8oJ3M/gn2rrbhJQdJ6m9I9I3CiUUL3Onu6ArFaYTyqHWUx F1C4bDkzlfi/CO2F1dn06zXYTelRVqwvx0S1KNKoeCzxxzAW5uzvEsZ9JReyVQBN36/CVEGn/PBHm di3WjM7GOMQ6I+04PReKdJTQu4mmDGBuJAzFLca0X5/t4rxha7Np3uRjOcCJlnlcX2XWk5aLKHY/O YrJcCTZXvk3sOOTAXPoaAGYyXgqnuem3FLSEzZnC161oM2oW0cYlIPmSOgLsNGxEedFI+FBirLM+R ibXz3DFhMjziEAb6uEtibA==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1olqCB-0003as-TD; Fri, 21 Oct 2022 07:28:12 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Alan Mackenzie on Fri, 21 Oct 2022 08:59:58 +0000) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:245984 Archived-At: > Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2022 08:59:58 +0000 > Cc: 58634@debbugs.gnu.org, acm@muc.de > From: Alan Mackenzie > > > I don't see why it should irritate: you cannot do anything with Emacs > > during that time anyway. > > It irritates, because it looks like Emacs has crashed. There is no > feedback. If Emacs really has crashed whilst loading the desktop, how > long should the user wait before getting angry? Again, I propose > outputting progress dots, possibly as an enabled by default option. I don't see any need for adding this. Your case seems to be a rare one, and doesn't justify such complications. > And I propose removing the (message "") from Info-toc-build, and amending > what this was designed to do in the proper place, wherever that might be. I'm guessing that (message "") was there because originally that function was showing progress messages as part of its processing: (or main-file (message "Searching subfile %s..." (car subfiles))) However, this has been commented out 14 years ago, so perhaps nowadays it isn't necessary. Adding Juri to the CC in case he has some comments.