From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#9402: list-colors-display Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 05:54:55 +0300 Message-ID: <837h5vfw1s.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87obz83v0x.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <838vqcf086.fsf@gnu.org> <8739gjzzm1.fsf@mail.jurta.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1314672967 31027 80.91.229.12 (30 Aug 2011 02:56:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 02:56:07 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 9402@debbugs.gnu.org To: Juri Linkov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 30 04:56:03 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QyEUc-0002HJ-Qp for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 04:56:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40906 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QyEUc-0004xb-1S for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 22:56:02 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:34778) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QyEUZ-0004xV-HQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 22:56:00 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QyEUY-00024R-DG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 22:55:59 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:59844) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QyEUY-00024L-9t for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 22:55:58 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QyEXW-0005dl-7r; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 22:59:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 02:59:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 9402 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 9402-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B9402.131467308421610 (code B ref 9402); Tue, 30 Aug 2011 02:59:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 9402) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Aug 2011 02:58:04 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QyEWa-0005cV-7u for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 22:58:04 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QyEWY-0005c4-J6 for 9402@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 22:58:03 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0LQP00600ZQ0E900@a-mtaout23.012.net.il> for 9402@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 05:54:56 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.229.83.44]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0LQQ006LH03J9PA0@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 05:54:55 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <8739gjzzm1.fsf@mail.jurta.org> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 22:59:02 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:50414 Archived-At: > From: Juri Linkov > Cc: 9402@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 00:17:42 +0300 > > >> There are more colors that are valid for using but hidden from users > >> such as e.g. on a tty: `unspecified-fg', `unspecified-bg'. > > > > They are meaningless and cannot be set by Emacs. IOW, they are > > "read-only", as far as Emacs is concerned. Exposing them to users > > would be confusing. > > All colors are "read-only" for users in the sense that users can't > change them. But platform-specific colors are not different from other > colors in the sense that they are used in face customization. Sorry, I was talking only about unspecified-bg and unspecified-fg. Emacs simply has no way of requesting these colors, it uses these names for the original TTY color whose foreground and background are unknown.