From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#13546: 24.2.92; Error(s) when sending emails Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 18:06:56 +0200 Message-ID: <837glswhgf.fsf@gnu.org> References: <86ehh9mx93.fsf@somewhere.org> <8638wzethn.fsf@somewhere.org> <86fw0z3z5e.fsf@somewhere.org> <83k3q9ubq7.fsf@gnu.org> <86k3q9l8pt.fsf@somewhere.org> <86fw0x8fos.fsf@somewhere.org> <86mwv56tid.fsf@somewhere.org> <83a9r2rdze.fsf@gnu.org> <861uc4gk5z.fsf@somewhere.org> <86wqtu3v3x.fsf@somewhere.org> <86wqtt5vz6.fsf@somewhere.org> <868v69a1pf.fsf@somewhere.org> <83k3ptvy1c.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1362067636 12953 80.91.229.3 (28 Feb 2013 16:07:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 16:07:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 13546@debbugs.gnu.org, wxhgmqzgwmuf@spammotel.com To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 28 17:07:39 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UB618-0007m7-Ss for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 17:07:35 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57819 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UB60n-0003m6-Pl for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 11:07:13 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:54276) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UB60h-0003kj-6W for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 11:07:11 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UB60f-0000rt-W1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 11:07:07 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:50910) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UB60f-0000rl-SR for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 11:07:05 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UB62X-00021N-V3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 11:09:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 16:09:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 13546 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 13546-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B13546.13620677367754 (code B ref 13546); Thu, 28 Feb 2013 16:09:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 13546) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Feb 2013 16:08:56 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56374 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UB62R-000210-Hc for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 11:08:56 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:60781) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UB62P-00020r-9B for 13546@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 11:08:54 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MIX00900U0RKS00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 13546@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 18:06:55 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MIX00950U3I36D0@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 18:06:55 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:71951 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Cc: Sebastien Vauban , 13546@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 08:42:18 -0500 > > > The messages just say that Emacs is using up a lot of memory for some > > reason. > > Indeed. Most likely the memory is used by C-level objects rather than > by Elisp objects, but in case these are Elisp objects, you can install > memory-usage (available from GNU ELPA) and do M-x memory-usage when the > process's size is suspicious (assuming that at that point Emacs is > still sufficiently usable to run the above command). Since this happens when sending email, i.e. opening network connections, I suspect that memory might be eaten up by reader threads we start to support each connection. This is further exacerbated by the fact that Sebastien uses TLS connections for email, so perhaps emacs_gnutls_pull is part of the problem. Sebastien, if the latest emacs-24 binary still gives you trouble, please try separate the sub-process and Helm stuff from the email stuff. That is, start 2 sessions of Emacs: one that uses Helm, but does not use email, the other that uses email, but not Helm (or subprocess-related commands in general). I'd like to know whether none, one, or both of theses sessions will exhibit some abnormal symptoms after several hours.